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Ness and Locus: (Civ4) 2nd Utopian Dynasty

Locus Coeruleus — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:32:06 GMT

After the successes to be had with the Romans in the first Civ4 Utopian Dynasty, we're at it again, this time a level higher.

Start: 4000 BC

[u]Civ4- The Second Utopian Dynasty[/u]
Ness and LC, the Utopians, of Utopia.
Random Civ
[b]Monarch Difficulty Level[/b]

Civ4 Vanilla

Archipelago Map (Landmass type=Archipelago)
Large World Size (max opponents=9)
Random Sea Level
Random Climate
Epic Speed
Starting Era=Ancient

Standard Options.
All Victory Types enabled.

Away we go!!!

We are the Spanish, led by the Matriarch Isabella. A spiritual and expansive people, we start with Mysticism and Fishing. How splendid!!!

goals for this session: 1.) Found Capital City.

2.) Explore, explore, explore.

3). Discover Polytheism, Adopt Hindu Faith.

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[u]In the Beginning[/u]

1) 4000BC- Opting to settle on starting location, Utopia has been founded. Ritual delvings into Polytheism begun (18 turns). Training of warrior unit initiated.

2) 3970 BC- Exploration

3) 3940 BC- Exploration

4) 3910 BC- Exploration

5) 3880 BC- Exploration

6) 3850 BC- Exploration

7) 3820 BC- Exploration

8) 3790 BC- Exploration

9) 3760 BC- Utopia consolidates her territory with a cultural expanson! Celebrate! Our warrior discoveres shiny gems in the Northern Hills.

10) 3730 BC- Exploration

11) 3700 BC- Exploration

12) 3670 BC- Exploration

13) 3640 BC- Exploration

14) 3610 BC- Exploration

15) 3580 BC- Exploration

16) 3550 BC- Exploration

17) 3520 BC- A den of lions approaches our warrior explorers. The have higher ground, our warriors run the other way! :w00t:

18) 3490 BC- Brave Warriors encounter same lions, this time the good guys have the higher ground! Time passes, Much Boredom, nothing to do, Utopians make many babies. The Village of Utopia grows to Size 2.

Scientific spending reduced to by 80 percent. We need a treasury.

19) 3460 AD- Our shamen wisemen have developed their own Polytheistic Creed and have called it Hinduism. This is cause for a great celebration! We are now the Hindu People!!! :)

Meanwhile off yonder, the stupid ***'d lions, not realizing that our warriors have the higher ground attack anyways. They do manage to inflict much damage, many brave souls perrished that day, but our boys emerged victorious, those who survived are better off for their experience, what does not kill shall only make stronger. But for now they must rest and recover.

We have cattle roaming about, we must harness these beasts so that are people are well fed. What is that you say, Hindus don't eat cows they worship them? What silly non-sense! We would be taken as fools, and almost surely not survive as a nation if we were to take advantage of our surroundings. And let us not kid ourselves. We do not worship animals. We worship the immortal gods! Come now.

Research has begun on how to make the most out of the fields, call it Agriculture (12 turns) so that we may be better able to tend to the crops and the cattle.

20) 3430 BC- Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

goals for this session: 1.) Found Capital City.

2.) Explore, explore, explore.

3). Discover Polytheism, Adopt Hindu Faith.

1) Done.
2) Check. Check!
3) You betcha!!!

And we even have our first trained warrior unit due up in....by the looks of it another 30 years. My how time flies. Are we alone in this world? Is one man indeed an island? Only the gods know. We have ultimate faith that they will guide us down the proper path. Let them show us the way.

Play on brotha, play on!

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Timed out?

r3df0x102 — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:17:51 GMT

Ok, my friend and i tried to play each other and suddenly we could not play games with each other saying that the host was "TRimed Out." What does this mean. Quick please, I would like to play him this weekend.

Le jeu Dynasty; vive La France

Bolan Longpants — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:34:35 GMT

Hello all,

I started a game playing France with De Gaulle as a leader.

Each player has 20 turns. Here is the players order:

-Bolan-Zigeuner-Leo-Tones-Dave-

Good luck to all; bonne chance!

Beginner Group Game

Vexillia — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:24:48 GMT

I'm a newbie, just started playing this week. Is there a multiplayer game forum for new people to learn the ropes?

For those who are new in multiplayer

ajcxx — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:08:47 GMT

HI im new in Multiplayer Civ If anyone wanna play for lear and try just post or contact me in ajc_xx@hotmail.com

Dynasty Game: The Three Musketeers

Bolan Longpants — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:27:00 GMT

Participants:

Bolan Longpants

Leo

Comedy Dave

Zigeuner (the fourth musketeer:P)

BTS3.13 Set up, random, random standard size map monarch difficulty and we received: The Romans. Our leader is named Cesar and we can make a good salad.

Quickfire BTS Dynasty Game

tones — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:16:33 GMT

I'm looking for two or three like-minded souls who would like to take part in a dynasty game and who can promise:

1. they are not about to disappear off the face of the earth with no explanation.

2. they can complete 25 turns* within three days maximum, then hand on to the next player and produce a report/synopsis of events to be posted on this site.

I am proposing a BTS game with the latest patch at QUICK speed, either STANDARD or SMALL world at a reasonably challenging level (monarch?) against multiple AI opponents, playing as a random or chosen Civ; all other settings normal.

I would like this to be able to proceed over weekends as well, although the forthcoming Christmas period is obviously exceptional and will involve something of a hiatus.

Fast and furious is the name of the game, with no regrets or recriminations, but wit and fun are mandatory. I don't even mind if we lose, as long as it doesn't drag on forever.

But winning would be better.

*number of turns to be on a sliding scale decreasing with game complexity

Informal BTS 3.13 (Bhruics) Feb GOTM

Scipio Africanus — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:02:36 GMT

Since I've finished a couple 'practice' Prince level games now (both the Sumeria Dynasty with Leo, and the BOTM 1 at Civ Fanatics [got a cultural victory in 1975, but actually reloaded once so won't submit my score of ~14K]) I wanted to try an SP as my favorite Civ and favorite map: Alexander, Terra, Large, High Sea, Temperate, No Tech Trading (a double-edged sword), Epic speed, Permanent Alliances enabled, all victories enabled except Time. I have Bhruic's Mod installed (link in the Two-On-Two Locked Alliance thread), and this is patch 3.13. AWESOME start location.

Anybody wanna join in?

No spoilers, no reloading. I plan to take this one really slow (no binge sessions where I make stupid mistakes and wind up reloading), so the end of Feb deadline might prove to be flexible; but will definitely try to finish.

Game of the Fortnight

Leo — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:10:05 GMT

Not a game of the month, but if you're bored and want to...play this game along with me.

Americans (Washington, Charismatic and Expansive)

Prince level (Beyond the Sword, v3.13)

Shuffled map

Low sea levels

Temperate climate

Locked modified assets, no reload rerolls.

No tech brokering...you can only trade what you've researched yourself.

I don't know about the viability of the map or start location, I've simply started the game myself like you would at home. I did, however, regenerate the map till I got this location...it looked good to me.

All victories enabled, Good luck! Game ends 1/31

Prince Dynasty Game

Scipio Africanus — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:38:41 GMT

Still have not won a Civ4 BTS 3.13 on Prince difficulty. In honesty, I was in no hurry to ramp up in difficulty too fast. I like to milk Civ for as much replayability as possible. I've finally got to the point where Noble Difficulty games have become tedious because winning seems to pretty much always be a foregone conclusion. However, I've started and failed to finish several Prince games so far, and feel it is finally time to try to make that step up.

I read [url=http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/first_win_on_prince.php]guide to "Getting Your First Win on Prince"[/url] and have tried implementing it playing the Sumerians. It was quite helpful, and I did do well up to about 400 AD, but started to get into trouble with overexpansion I think. Anyway, I've had enough trial runs that I feel I'm now in range to actually win. I thought it might be more fun if 2 or 3 of us had this "First Win on Prince" experience as a Dynasty team?

Never played a Dynasty game, so not fully clear on how it works. My impression is that one guy starts it, plays 25 turns, and posts reports of what happens during those turns, then posts the saves and the next guy plays 25, and this proceeds in round fashion?

My Build:

Civilization IV "Beyond the Sword"

Civ Version: 313

Save Version: 301

Build Version: 3.0.0.1 (81539)

Build Date: Fri Sep 21 2007

Build: FINAL RELEASE

Mod Name: NONE

My suggestions:

1. Obviously we need at least two, but preferably three players. I think three is a good limit.

2. I would prefer if NONE of us have as yet won a random Ancient Start, "Epic" game in BTS on Prince Difficulty Level, exceptions for things like past Prince wins with mods or scenarios perhaps excepted . . .

3. 25 turns, pace of progress need not be blazing, but lets not just disappear off the face of the planet . . .

4. We play Gilgamesh, Sumeria, Prince Difficulty

5. Our opponents . . . I initially thought 6 AI all random, but then rethought that. It rubs my realist's fur the wrong way when Roosevelt is going toe-to-toe with a leader from the ancient world . . . so instead I picked out the six that are as close to being truly ANCIENT civ leaders

Hammurabi (our nemesis)

Asoka (neighbor?)

Ramesees II

Shaka (hopefully a far away tribe :w00t:)

Mansa Musa

Qin Shi Huang

6. Pangaea standard size with Natural shoreline, Temperate climate, High sea level, Normal speed, Cylindrical wrap, Standard resources

7. No Tech Brokering, New Random seed on reload, Lock modified assets

Balanced Map in multiplayer games

DarthGalt — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:51:47 GMT

I chose 'balanced' as the map i wanted in two different multiplayer games and both times ended up with a Pangea type land mass in the middle of a vast ocean.

Is this a bug?

warlords pbem anybody up for it?

adam_the_scouser — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:08:30 GMT

Hi guys I aint new here but aint been on in a while. Had a kid about a year ago and responsibilities have taken up most of my spare time. He is becoming a bit more dependent now and I can find myself able to get on the computer every now and again. So I was wondering if anybody is up for a pbem with me? The more the merrier :D

SJTR "issues" thread

jerm — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:52:28 GMT

Just thought it would be good to have a thread to discuss technical issues with the game/emails/absenses, etc.

Apparently my emails are taking a super long time to get to Tones and it seems to be getting worse. It's probably something that can be solved by yelling at someone but at the moment, I just don't have time. If it starts affecting my work the I'll likely need to do it anyway though so we'll see. I'll try sending the save again to Tones but I'm not sure it will get there before the other one. Frustrating, this technology stuff.

Seeking PBEM Partner

Agamemnon — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 05:32:32 GMT

Hiya, fellas. :)

I'm looking for a PBEM partner, 2-3 turns a day (but 1-2 is okay), and won't quit on me in the middle of a game because he doesn't like the way things are going. I'm a middle of the pack player (Monarch or so, not that good on the higher levels yet!)

Vanilla 1.61 or Warlords 2.08, you pays your money and takes your chances :P

Gimmeh a yell and we'll set something up.

Vinadelmar turn counter

Warlord — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:14:12 GMT

Who's turn is it?

New Dyansty Game?

Scorpius — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:29:43 GMT

I used to really like these, anyone up for one, I know the last one ended about a month ago. I've only got Vanilla.

Xfire Profiles

isufan2006 — Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:22:09 GMT

Well with Xfire coming with the new patch im just wondering if anyone is gonna use it. If they are I suppose we could all put our usernames in here so we could have easy reference to check for people to play a quick game. Well my user name is isufan2006. Anyone else feel free to add theirs as well if they want.

Monarchy Game

jerm — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:05:06 GMT

Over at Civilized we've been developing a new kind of system for multiple players to participate in the same game. It's not a Dgame but similar only in the aspect that more than one person is involved in a single player game. The difference is that it's based on land ownership and a king who has nearly absolute power... that is until he gets overthrown. All players are princes who are jockeying for power to gain the most power points. There are various ways of gaining power points such as gaining more provinces (tiles), through peaceful and agressive means, being the monarch for as long as you can, controlling city tiles and various other means. The person who has the most points at the end of the game wins (Yes there is a winner at the end). There is also the opportunity to become an archbishop if one is interested in moderating the game. While they are still active players and potentially the most powerful, they are not participating in the land ownership aspect. They're sort of the chief justice of the game.

As I said, this is not a Dgame and is not meant to be a substitute for one. Perhaps not everyone is suited for this game if they take things personal. If you do sign up, keep in mind that you will likely be stabbed and may also be a stabber but you should not take anything personal. If you are the kind of person that does, you may want to reconsider playing ;). It's also a game which will require a small degree of commitment, though probably not more than an hour over the course of a week. If you are interested, a sign up thread has been started [url=http://www.civilized.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2198]here[/url].

Anyhoo, join up if you dare :)

Online Games List

Jasonc488 — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:14:33 GMT

Hi all,

Just wondering whether anyone has had the same problem as me. I can login onto the multi player game. But all I can do is chat. There is no Games on the list, I've refreshed many times but still with no list. Many people were telling me to join their game, but I couldn't see any. Just wondering if anyone has had the same problem and would like advise on this. Many thanks for any feedback.

A proposal

General Georges — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:54:44 GMT

Earlier this month (or was it last month), I proposed the idea of an online GOTM. This was partially rejected due to people having to figure out a common time to play. I've decided to evolve this idea into a new one. Why not arrange a little ladder or tournament system for players here at 1BC. This way we can have a little ranking system just for fun.

Games here would not need to be played online. They could be pitboss, pbem, standard online, etc... Players would report wins/losses and a little ladder system would form. Montly tournaments could also be held, where players could win cups/banners/etc. I think this little ladder-like system would add a little fun to this board and add a little twist, brining in another form of 'community-like competiton' instead of just having th monthly GOTM.

What do you guys think? You think this would work?

I know there are already much larger ladder systems out there for cIV, but this one would be just an extra little 'fun' touch to the community of 1BC. :hehe:

Civ 4 Friendly Game

sutekh3 — Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:15:52 GMT

If anyone cares to play a friendly game of civ 4 and can stay up to finish the game... here is my contact info!
MSN willmontgomery30@hotmail.com
AIM PrKnnx

I have been wanting to play with someone online for a long time now!

Can't connect even though I've tried EVERYTHING

Jegg — Sun, 27 May 2007 12:16:43 GMT

I just missed my Civ 4 date tonight with my three friends. Great. *not*

For some reason, I am the only one who couldn't connect to the others on the IP address. I could, however, connect to the IP address but when the other guys wanted to join, I was blocking them, 'because of my firewall settings'.

I have norton antivirus and I, honestly, almost deleted it from my computer. I'm suuuuure I shut it down and I've been able to play online before. Why didn't it work tonight?

The problem is probably me since everyone could connect except me.

:w00t:

What can I doOOO?! *dies*

Help with Multiplayer games

Kylie1115 — Sun, 13 May 2007 03:38:48 GMT

Hi all,

A friend and I are trying to figure out how to get this mulitplayer thing to work. The video card she has on her laptop is old, and the game runs at a low capacity. We were tryingt o play using the Internet option, but everytime she tried to install the patch, she got an error message and the game shut down.

Then we were trying Direct IP and we can't figure it out either.

Any suggestions or solutions as to how to fix this?

Thanks!

4th Noitazilivic DGame

TORARADICAL — Sat, 05 May 2007 20:48:08 GMT

We are now taking applications for citizenship for our fourth DGame.
It will be starting mid July and using Beyond The Sword.
Access is very private though, so you must apply for admission. If interested please contact me by pm or email, with why you want to be part of our game.

OGOTM

General Georges — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 08:08:53 GMT

OGOTM - 1BC's online game of the month

With the easter long weekend coming and all, I was thinking to myself, that during the morning/early afternoon on friday, I don't have much to do, so after countless hours (more like seconds) of pondering on what I should do, it came to me. Enough with PBEMs! Why not have a good old fun game of cIV online with a bunch of other 1bcians and why not make this like a monthly thing, similar to the GOTM.

Every month there would be another OGOTM. A winner would be declared, and just like in GOTM, he/she would have braging rights for the month. People sometimes need to leave games and can not stick out the whole online game. For this reason we would play that if you leave, your out/lose. To help shorten games, we would play smaller maps, such as small and standard (depending on the number of players) with simultaneous turns and probably a flazing or fast time turner and maybe a quick or normal game speed. Game Barbarians would be turned off because of their sometimes unfair placement, same with the "Goody Huts". All other game options (such as tech trading) and victory conditions will be decided befroe every match.

So what do you guys think of this? Anyone game? :w00t:

Oh, just an extra thought! Sometimes we could add the excitement of team games, such as a 2v2v2 or 3v3!!! :hehe:

Dynasty Game

Zigeuner — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:57:41 GMT

Could I interest anybody in playing a Dynasty Game with me? My compu can't handle anything bigger than a standard map, but other than that I'm open to all deviations. Oh, I've finished 2 Civ4 games already, so I'm hoping it'll be a learning experience...

10+ player vanilla Civ IV Pitboss

JamesM — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:22:27 GMT

Hey guys,

I know there are some Civilization IV players lurking around here somewhere.

I am arranging a pitboss game, I'm looking at around 10-14 players depending on how many sign up. The game will be simultaneous turns with a 24 hour turn timer. Note that this is vanilla Civ and not Warlords.

I have set-up a simple website/forums to organise everything, if you want to take part then you can register for the game at the following url:

http://civ4.game-host.org/forum

When you register on the forums please select a civilizaiton/leader, but check the player list first to make sure you don't pick a civilization thats already been taken.

Once your in have a look in the forums, check the rules out, say hello, etc, and if you have any questions then feel free to make your own thread or message me through the forums.

I will be looking to start the game asap.

There are currently 3-4 slots remaining.

Civ IV MP game with a newbie

steward — Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:59:59 GMT

Hi,

I am not new to Civ (IV), but am new to MP gaming. I would like to set up a (low key) game with a couple of players who are also new to this. Anyone interested in joining?

Hope to hear from you. Thanks!

Steward

GMT +1

5 man pitboss game, still needs players!

LunarEclipse — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:54:16 GMT

Post Removed.

PBEM - Seeking partner

vinadelmar — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:40:16 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for someone who will not get bored over the time...

My profile :

- Play one or twice (no more) a day during weeks : Monday - Friday
- Civ4 (last patch, no add-ons nor expansion packs, .. just Civ4)
- I don't mind playing 6 months, or even a year as long as you are interested in the game.

Sometimes I could play Saturday and/or Sunday but always consider that I will not.

If you don't mind a two days break, a low gaming frequency/day and a long term game... leave a message.

Starting early February.

Who's up for an online game?

mongoose201 — Sat, 03 Feb 2007 11:42:54 GMT

I'll be around quite a bit this weekend, so, since I can't seem to get a pbem off of the ground (some sort of save file issue), anyone interested in an online game, either post here, or meet me on msn.

I would prefer Warlords, but vanilla would work for me also..

Seeking Game Partner

SirDeity — Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:45:49 GMT

Hello. It's still college vacation and I was hoping to finally find someone with a lot of free time on their hands wanting to play a long civilization IV multiplayer game with me. I just want to find one or two people who can play almost everyday for at least several hours per day over the course of the next two or three weeks.

I can play virtually anytime but would prefer between the hours of 8AM-3AM Eastern Standard time. If anyone is interested, please let me know. I'm a mature player and I'm friendly and experienced with nearly all of the prior Civilization games. I don't consider myself a pro, but I'm not a beginner either. Ideally, I'd like to forge a strong alliance with whoever I play with and dominate the world with full AI opponents (normal difficulty). I'd like this player-to-player alliance to last at least until nearly all of the computer AI civilizations have been destroyed. I'll share maps, resources, technologies, and occasionally gold.

Please let me know as soon as possible if you or anyone you know might be interested in a friendly, long-term, continuous, private multiplayer game.

Thank you very much, ~SirDeity

Player needed for Warlords Pitboss Game

NYURDRMS — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:31:01 GMT

We just started a Warlords Pitboss game. If you are interested in playing please post here, PM, or email me and I will send you the details. We only have one spot open, but we just started.

Thanks,

Chad

Multiplayer Hub

[DI] V — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:39:58 GMT

Hey there. I have created a multiplayer hub at : http://www.di.i247.biz/forums/

Looking for good people to play with? Look no further!

Peace + Love,
V

LC and Ness Dynasty I

Ness — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:32:26 GMT

LC and I are continuing our tradition of playing and posting dynasty games. We will have detailed reports every 20 turns (10 turns in the modern era). Feel free to join our discussion, give advice and take our advice and tips to help you play your own games.

All reports will be done through this link:

http://www.civilized.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=188&t=1589&st=0#entry21023

Civ4MP League

DeathtoALL — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:43:43 GMT

Hi Everyone,

www.myleague.com/civ4players

We at C4P would like to introduce ourselves. We have ran the ladder league for Civ 3 Conquests for the past couple years and have been greatly involved in the development of CIV4 MP. You are all welcome to come join us for a game anytime. We run many Tourneys including the Clan Championship Cup. You may also see most of us in the CIV4 lobby at one point or another. At the time of this post we are just over 1000 members playing in MP games. Stop by and see us, you are all welcome.

DTA

game spy

madcat — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:57:23 GMT

I have 2 accounts there, when I trythe account from disk it just sits there. i wouldlike to play against others and Idon't know how to do then.

Invitation to the Civ4 ISDG

Lord Parkin — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:48:42 GMT

Hello all,

I am "emperor" from Evolution Games. Currently we are in the initial stages of organising an Intersite Democracy Game for Civilization IV, and have been extending invitations to various sites around the civ world to join in the fun! :) So far the response has been very positive, with 8 sites already having confirmed participation, and 4 others expected to respond soon. However, we're always on the lookout for more interested and talented individuals and/or teams to welcome to the game!

As such, we extend an invitation out to the entire community of 1BC, to - if you so wish - participate in and be involved with this exciting upcoming game! If you are interested in gathering together a team for this purpose, your site be most warmly welcomed to the ISDG community! :) Of course, if you would prefer to just join up as individuals amongst the other teams, that's fine too. (Though we [i]would[/i] love to see another whole site involved, if there's the requisite interest!)

For all those wanting to know more, the "official" forums can currently be found here:
[url]http://evo-games.net/Home/viewforum.php?f=241[/url]

Thank you for your time. I hope to at least have stirred your interest with this post! Any questions, please feel free to ask them either here in this thread or over at the EVG forums. ;)

- emperor

Chat does not work in Trade (Diplomacy) Screen

kflorian — Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:22:37 GMT

When in multiplayer mode, Direct IP connection, one party in a 3 party game cannot use CHAT in the diplomacy screen. Private and global chat works fine on main map screen.

Any ideas on why this does not work?

Playing from here to the US?

USA F-15 — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:06:34 GMT

So I thought about this, and i thought of how to play on MP... Well It's always a problem with these kind of things here. There isn't a great market for games like cIV here in Israel. I usually order from Amzon.uk

However they stopped shiping softwhear to Israel. NON of the Israely sits have cIV in there stores, and no big computer stores around. Since, shipping from the US is soo rediculsly expensive (30$!) I asked my dad to get it when he flies to the US for a bussines meeting or somthing. He left a few hours ago. I am afraid of one thing. Lags.

I did the same with World Of Warcraft, since it cost 150$ here and only 50$ in the US. I later regreted that because my lag would climb to 2000-4000 ms, 500 on a good day.

So im really worried it will happen again, I want to ask how bad are the lag issues in cIV (considiring that WoW has over 3000 thousand users on every server, it shouldnt be THAT high...)

Also, with how many latency are most people willing to play with?

Thx in advance, and i still could tell my dad to forget about buying it, and hope that itll get here soon...