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RE: November 06 GOTM

jerm — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 13:29:52 GMT

Yes, I like the permanant peace option as well. It will force us to think outside the box.

RE: November 06 GOTM

Tiger — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 07:45:50 GMT

Yes, the permanent peace option. Might be fun.

Btw, congrats Rish, I didnt expect my score to be good enough to hold onto my crown and so it proved. :)

RE: November 06 GOTM

Rishbhav — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 11:52:07 GMT

An interesting and hard variant would be to prevent us from going to war...

RE: November 06 GOTM

mongoose201 — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:12:40 GMT

Congrats are in order for Rishbhav, November GOTM Champion:)

I'll update everything over the weekend, and see about getting another game up.

Any suggestions? All victories? Some victories? No victories, for some:D

RE: November 06 GOTM

Rishbhav — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:41:46 GMT

Well I went to war to built a power base too, except that my poswerbase was the entire continent :w00t:

RE: November 06 GOTM

jerm — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:32:42 GMT

Well I did go to war to a limited degree early on to gain a power base but I didn't want to focus on war to win the game. Let's look at the final scores vs. screenshots. Rish got the highest score because he conqured the entire continent. Tiger got a lower score because he conqured less of the continent. I conqured even less than both of them and I lost the game (though only because of a permanant alliance created by two rivals but I still could not have won the space race). The logical conclusion to this is that the more you war, the more chances you have to win and with a higher score. This doesn't mean you can't win without warmongering early in the game, but it does seem that your score will be much lower if you don't.

RE: November 06 GOTM

Rishbhav — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:32:34 GMT

Well, I would say that you have to know how to war well, if just to set yourself up. For example I consider myself a builder at heart but that was keeping me from doing well on Noble. So I went into "boot camp" playing as the Mongols and the Aztecs to get a feel for war. Now I'm not really a warmonger persay, but I do take out anyone who infringes on my builder supremacy :D

RE: November 06 GOTM

Locus Coeruleus — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:07:49 GMT

I didn't play this one, but this is in reference to Jerms comments, since there isn't a whole lot of Civ4 discussion going on here....

Do you necessarily have to be a warmonger? Or is it just that you have to wage war early on, to a limited degree to set your self up for the future, to both weaken one or two opponents and expand your nation's territory when you have run out of room to peacably do so?

I don't consider myself a warmonger, In all my days of Civ playing, I've only had one military victory in a single player epic game and that was way back in Civ2. Butt in every game I've been successful in, I've almost always engaged in offensive war, and sometimes I even start the wars unprovoked when the situation calls for it. Does that make me a warmonger? :)

RE: November 06 GOTM

Zone — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:12:00 GMT

Lol, I won't have time to play it. You should be safe Rish...

RE: November 06 GOTM

jerm — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:48:28 GMT

This brings up a kind of annoying fact. Even to get other victories other than conquest/domination, you have to be a warmonger, especially for those higher scores.

RE: November 06 GOTM

Rishbhav — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:13:37 GMT

Yeah, I axe rushed the Incas and then used my super cossacks to clean up the Romans which gave me a clear rise. (I think the Chinese and the Indians were coming out of the Renaissance when I won)

EDIT: Zone, if you rob me again I don't know what I'll do :w00t:

RE: November 06 GOTM

jerm — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:17:39 GMT

Ah, I lost. I'd have won if Rome and the Incans didn't create a permanant alliance and then attack me. I brought the Inca down to one city but that city was on the other continent. Not to mention it took away vital science spending while I had to fight them. I lost the space victory by about 20 turns due to the game ending. All I had to do was to get the engine finished but I didn't get the final tech researched in time to build it. Oh well, there's always next month.

The key to a space race victory seems to be early conquest. In retrospect, I should have focused militarilly early on and wiped out the Inca. Then build up military again and severely cripple, if not wipe out the Romans. By this time you'll have so many cities that you should be able to build units on the outer cities while focusing on building up your inner and most productive cities for the ship. Well, you live and you learn.

RE: November 06 GOTM

HistoryDude — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:43:14 GMT

I threw in the mouse. :pinch:

I did have a nice start and then I waged a quick war with the Incans, took a couple of their cities and made peace. Then Rome attacked me, but I had to play defense for a while as his huge army committed suicide against one of the new Incan cities I had just taken. My Incan invasion force was able to march over in time to meet the Roman threat. After several turns, his army was pretty much eliminated, but he had weakened mine in the process. And then the Incans attacked me with about 20 units, retaking the other City. I had nothing to stop both them and the Romans, and neither would consider peace. I figured even if I survived, a space race victory was beyond reach... :crying:

RE: November 06 GOTM

Zone — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:53:46 GMT

Well I'm now back from Australia, so I'll see if I can complete the game in time.

RE: November 06 GOTM

jerm — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:15:24 GMT

I'm playing but I doubt I will beat Rish's score. I'm almost sure to win my game but I'm already past Rish's year.

RE: November 06 GOTM

mongoose201 — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:02:02 GMT

Is anyone else playing? As it stands now, we will have another first time champ. :)

I'm somewhat suprised we haven't had a repeat winner yet.

RE: November 06 GOTM

Rishbhav — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:29:58 GMT

My score: 10921. I think I did pretty well on this one. Tip: your cossacks are IMHO one of the best units in the game. Use them to control your continent and use those resources for victory.

RE: November 06 GOTM

Bismarck2990 — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:22:24 GMT

I'll play the save if I get a chance tonight or tommorow... gave up on the GOTM since I figured everybody was jumping towards the Warlord Expansion with it. But eh... I'll be glad to take my championship back on this one. :)

RE: November 06 GOTM

HistoryDude — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:01:32 GMT

Wasn't able to play the last couple of nights. Will try to put in an hour or so tonight, but Thursdays are my civ3 nights on-line with a friend in Colorado... :D

Should still be able to finish before the end of the month, though! :P

RE: November 06 GOTM

Tiger — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:24:32 GMT

@ History Dude - well Im currently out of work, on 'garden leave' so I have a lot of time on my hands. ;)

Killing the Inca was a big part of my game in this one. I wiped them out by 500BC, taking their capital plus their other 2 cities with axemen. Gave me a very good start to the game. Mind you, I got lucky, popping 2 free techs early, one of which was bronze working. :)

RE: November 06 GOTM

jerm — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:52:58 GMT

Just finished a very successful war against the Inca and I think I have enough cities with high production that I'll be able to do decently. My focus has been on building up an army so I can grab my neighbor's cities but now I'm shifting to reducing maintainance and unhappiness as well as keeping ahead in the science race. At some point I'll just go straight to the Apollo project and only research what I need for the win. Don't have a lot of time to play and next week will be hard with Thanksgiving. I hope I can finish in time.

RE: November 06 GOTM

HistoryDude — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:40:50 GMT

Nice job, Tiger! How do you play that so quick?! :crazy:

Started it last night and got a good start (though keep in mind, my good starts are probably semi-decent ones for others! :P ). Anyway, this was the first game I've ever played that I popped a Settler from a goodie hut!

I'm getting ready to go to war for a couple of resources... ;) I'm having trouble with Health in this game. :hehe:

RE: November 06 GOTM

Tiger — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:31:30 GMT

Just finished mine. Its actually my first ever space race victory. Score not great though, didnt win until 2023.

RE: November 06 GOTM

HistoryDude — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:02:17 GMT

Aw, man, just now saw this! :pinch: I should be able to get started tonight! :D

RE: November 06 GOTM

jerm — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:42:09 GMT

Cool, now I've got something to do while I'm waiting for Rish to play his PBEM turns. :D

[spoiler]I'm into the classical era and it's a good position. I got a free city from the barbs so that was nice. Lots of resources and luxeries to be had. I think this thing is going to break out in war soon though. [/spoiler]

RE: November 06 GOTM

Rishbhav — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:16:37 GMT

aww.... no flogging? :P

and with Cathy, my favorite :w00t:

November 06 GOTM

mongoose201 — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:30:14 GMT

Game Closed:

Champion: [red]Rishbhav[/red] Score: [red]10921 in 1975AD[/red]

Other Submissions:

[red]Tiger[/red] Score: [red]6243 in 2023 AD[/red]

And So It Begins:

This game is from Vanila CivIV verson 1.61.

Civ: Russians

Leader: Catherine

Difficulty: Warlord with 5 random Rivals

Permanent Alliances Allowed - Modified Assets Locked

Start Position:

Special Victory Conditions

All Victory Conditions have been allowed, but only 1 will be accepted: [red]Space Race[/red]

What wonderful fun! Go to war if you wish, but don't get too greedy, or you'll trigger another victory...

Highest Normalized Score in a Space Race victory will be declared GOTM champion.

[b]When you complete the game, take a screenshot of the Victory screen where it lists your leadership counterpart in history. You may post the screenshot in the GOTM thread and then PM your final save (hopefully one just before victory) to me. Saves should be named as follows: [username]Nov06GOTM.Civ4SavedGame.[/b]

Good Luck

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