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RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Thu, 10 May 2007 21:44:46 GMT

[quote][b]Agamemnon (5/10/2007)[/b][hr][quote][b]General Georges (5/10/2007)[/b][hr]:hehe:Tonight eh! Look forward to it! - especially winning again :P lol - nah i won by default in this one lol because i was only one to submitt game!! hahahaha[/quote]

Not this time, dude. :P[/quote]

Guess I'll have to step up my game ;). :P

So where's this May GOTM we where promissed.........:hehe:

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Thu, 10 May 2007 20:08:22 GMT

[quote][b]General Georges (5/10/2007)[/b][hr]:hehe:Tonight eh! Look forward to it! - especially winning again :P lol - nah i won by default in this one lol because i was only one to submitt game!! hahahaha[/quote]

Not this time, dude. :P

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

ontrial — Thu, 10 May 2007 20:06:35 GMT

got half a day of work tomorrow as long as its not some huge map on a difficulty ive never done il be up for the challenge

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Thu, 10 May 2007 19:56:49 GMT

:hehe:Tonight eh! Look forward to it! - especially winning again :P lol - nah i won by default in this one lol because i was only one to submitt game!! hahahaha

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Thu, 10 May 2007 09:37:21 GMT

Thank you very much, Mongoose. Your hard work is appreciated! :)

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

mongoose201 — Thu, 10 May 2007 08:32:22 GMT

Yes... most profuse apologies.. It will be up tonight

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Thu, 10 May 2007 04:45:10 GMT

Uh... is there going to be a May GOTM?

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Sat, 05 May 2007 13:00:14 GMT

*waiting*

Maybe a scenario can be permanently pinned as a GOTW(henever)...

gg GG :D

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

jerm — Fri, 04 May 2007 19:13:47 GMT

May I suggest a random (or fractal) map with no special rules (though I'd have no problem with no time victories) for May? Nice work GG.

Addit: Actually one of the scenarios would be cool too.

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Fri, 04 May 2007 16:42:45 GMT

[quote]You are the champ.. submissions are closed, but I'll make it all nice and official in the next couple days.. [/quote]

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :hehe:

[quote]Congrats, General Georges! [/quote]

Thanks :D!

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Thu, 03 May 2007 02:23:50 GMT

Congrats, General Georges! :D

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

mongoose201 — Wed, 02 May 2007 23:48:55 GMT

[quote][b]General Georges (5/1/2007)[/b][hr][quote]In BtS they should really include Dale's Combat Mod turned on by default. It gives navies teeth (yay oldskool bombardment!), adds cruise missiles/tactical nukes, and stacked combat.[/quote]

Cool - got to go check out this mod!!! And doesn't cIV already have stacked combat??? It's in the options.

Oh ya!! How many more days are left for April GOTM!?!?![/quote]

You are the champ.. submissions are closed, but I'll make it all nice and official in the next couple days.. I'm really swamped with work but I'll make it all happen before the end of the week....

The new game will start soon after.

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Tue, 01 May 2007 22:08:27 GMT

[quote]um, I for one think that this GOTM should be disqualified, because of... because of... I'll think of something... [/quote]

***reads, pouts like a 2 year old, and stomps away.....***

:P:P:P

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Tue, 01 May 2007 22:01:33 GMT

um, I for one think that this GOTM should be disqualified, because of... because of... I'll think of something... :P

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Tue, 01 May 2007 21:31:14 GMT

[quote]In BtS they should really include Dale's Combat Mod turned on by default. It gives navies teeth (yay oldskool bombardment!), adds cruise missiles/tactical nukes, and stacked combat.[/quote]

Cool - got to go check out this mod!!! And doesn't cIV already have stacked combat??? It's in the options.

Oh ya!! How many more days are left for April GOTM!?!?!

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Rishbhav — Tue, 01 May 2007 20:56:08 GMT

In BtS they should really include Dale's Combat Mod turned on by default. It gives navies teeth (yay oldskool bombardment!), adds cruise missiles/tactical nukes, and stacked combat.

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Tue, 01 May 2007 15:08:17 GMT

Sure they have lethal bombardment... it just comes in the form of Helicopters and Destroyers. :D

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RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:23:57 GMT

[quote][b]Zigeuner (4/30/2007)[/b][hr][quote]The Air Force is nothing more than a bunch of flyswatters in cIV. Useless things. Can't sink ships. Bleh. Useless things. Just load up your arty and ground troops, blast your way into their cities. Give me a real air striking team that can do some *real* damage.[/quote]Heh, that's strange. In the Feb GOTM (a modern era game entirely) I relied heavily on a gigantic stack of Stealth Bombers. Didn't lose many land units at all! :) (Not until I made my blooper anyway... :D )

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They didn't have lethal bombardment :P 'Nuff said.

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:23:10 GMT

[quote][b]General Georges (4/30/2007)[/b][hr][quote]Another thing I sorely miss was being able to modify subs to carry cruise missiles, which gave them greater attack options.[/quote]

I really missed this too. I loved the subs!

I think it's good they put the bonus for chariots against axemen. Maybe the bonus is a big to big, but its good. Before the chariots were comepletely useless. And the bonus against axemen, though a bit to big, is quite realistic. Chariots were very good against melee units.

What they do to praetorians and cossacks? Up costs? If so, it's good they did, those to units are super units lol.[/quote]

The Cossack cost stayed the same, but the strength went from 18 to 15. That 3 points less strength for the sake of an unique unit that only appears in late game after you're nearly done with spaceship construction... well... ppppppppffffffftttttttttttt. *Bronx Cheer*

Can't find the info on the praets, which I thought I had handy... ::grumbles:: Hope I didn't get that info wrong. Bleh.

Edit: Apparently I did. Someone fed me some misinformation, apparently. ::grumbles:: Either that or I misread it wrong. Okay, I withdraw the complaint on the Praets. But I'm certain they were changed somehow, I just can't find it. ::puzzled::

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:54:41 GMT

[quote]The Air Force is nothing more than a bunch of flyswatters in cIV. Useless things. Can't sink ships. Bleh. Useless things. Just load up your arty and ground troops, blast your way into their cities. Give me a real air striking team that can do some *real* damage.[/quote]Heh, that's strange. In the Feb GOTM (a modern era game entirely) I relied heavily on a gigantic stack of Stealth Bombers. Didn't lose many land units at all! :) (Not until I made my blooper anyway... :D )

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:44:32 GMT

[quote]Another thing I sorely miss was being able to modify subs to carry cruise missiles, which gave them greater attack options.[/quote]

I really missed this too. I loved the subs!

I think it's good they put the bonus for chariots against axemen. Maybe the bonus is a big to big, but its good. Before the chariots were comepletely useless. And the bonus against axemen, though a bit to big, is quite realistic. Chariots were very good against melee units.

What they do to praetorians and cossacks? Up costs? If so, it's good they did, those to units are super units lol.

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:26:50 GMT

Amongst others, they nerfed the Praetorian and Cossack. They've made subtle changes to some others. And they've given the chariot the ability to beat up axemen.

As for naval units, I disagree a little bit there. Control of the seas and the air complement land forces in real life, and they should in the game as well. One thing I loved was sea-land bombardment with both ships and bombers based on carriers. Another thing I sorely miss was being able to modify subs to carry cruise missiles, which gave them greater attack options.

Heck, I even inserted a Typhoon (Soviet SSBN), modified to carry 8 tactical nukes into C3C. That was a sweet deterrent, having a boomer worthy of the name around ;). Pity the AI never figured out how to use them. One of the few times the AI launched a nuke attack against me, they wound up sorely regretting it - I had 4 typhoons, fully loaded, sitting at the north and south polar cap regions. Tsk. Between those and the surviving carrier battle groups, they never had a prayer.

Another thing about a sea-based nuke force, it's harder to eliminate them than land-based ICBM's, because of their stealthy nature. The enemy can easily nuke your cities and destroy the ICBM's, but it can't do that with boomers. Why get caught with your pants down around your ankles?

In cIV, the navy has been so dumbed down, it's little more than an escort force for troop transports. The tactical and strategic elements of carriers and subs are woefully ignored. Even with continental maps, a navy is still useful to quarantine your opponents and blast the smithereens out of their coastal fortresses.

Pity no one has come up with a mod that enhances the air and naval aspects of the game. I just might reinstall C3C back onto this machine just to enjoy my subs again.

The Air Force is nothing more than a bunch of flyswatters in cIV. Useless things. Can't sink ships. Bleh. Useless things. Just load up your arty and ground troops, blast your way into their cities. Give me a real air striking team that can do some *real* damage.

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:02:36 GMT

[quote]but the changes in the units kinda turns me off[/quote]

Which changes........I kinda forget Vanilla now............didn't they change chariot and uu for aztec.......what else again.......

I know what you mean bout the navy and air force. Unless your playing an island map, a navy isn't that crucial. For some reason, I also commonly neglect air force, unless I'm going for conquest/domination, but even then, I still often neglect it.

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:58:30 GMT

I know all of that; personally, I don't think the GG adds much to the game, except to encourage war, which is already present to a good degree. The UB's make it interesting, but the changes in the units kinda turns me off. I don't know. Hoping for a realistic navy and air force in that expansion was apparently too much to ask for. That's one thing I loved about C3C. The Navy had teeth, and so did the Air corps. They ain't worth much in Warlords. :(

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:51:58 GMT

All warlords changed/added were:

new leaders/civs

new leader traits

new unique buildings for civs

and the great general unit (my favourite)

I love the great general unit. I love putting the +2 experience bonus in a city sometiems allowing me to produce units with +15 experience! :w00t:

Bacically warlords adds a touch more towards war. Balances the game out a bit more in this way (i believe).

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:49:38 GMT

It's less of a stress on my machine, plus I think Warlords, for some reason, makes it a little unbalanced. I can't pinpoint the reason why I'm not comfortable with it, only that I am. It just feels like a totally different game for some reason. ::shrug::

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:43:03 GMT

I'm definately a Warlord's fan over Vanilla. Why do u like Vanill amore???

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:41:08 GMT

Vanilla, Standard map, Island, all victory conditions ;)

Oh, yeah, Noble. :P

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:38:01 GMT

[quote]Well done on being the champ, buddy [/quote]

Don't raise my hopes yet! :w00t: There's still quite a bit of time left in the day (depending on where you are in the world lol)! :hehe:

So what do you guys think the next GOTM should be?

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:36:44 GMT

Heh!

Well done on being the champ, buddy :)

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:32:02 GMT

.............ok...........I shut up now......................:P;)

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:20:18 GMT

[quote][b]General Georges (4/30/2007)[/b][hr]One more day!!!! :w00t: Please nobody submitt a game with a score higher than my redicuously low score lol. :hehe:[/quote]

Don't tempt me :evilgrin:

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:15:56 GMT

One more day!!!! :w00t: Please nobody submitt a game with a score higher than my redicuously low score lol. :hehe:

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

HistoryDude — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:01:06 GMT

I started it - barely. Just didn't have time this month. Hope to in May...

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:15:48 GMT

Do any of the GotM ever use Vanilla? I'm far more comfortable with Vanilla than with Warlords.

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

General Georges — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:02:06 GMT

Oooooooooooo. One more day left! :w00t: Don't tell me I'm gonna win with such a low score!!! :hehe: lol

Now that I've said this, somebody's gonna beat me.........lol :P

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Agamemnon — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:40:19 GMT

Likewise as Zig. Stalemate. The AI ain't worth a hill of beans as a teammate. Every time I tried a war, Catherine just sat there playing with one of her kittens (so to speak). Bleh.

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:37:47 GMT

um, I gave up on this one... No superior numbers, no superior weaponry. 'Fraid I started a new one just for me own. :ermm:

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

mongoose201 — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:24:25 GMT

Hello.....?

Anybody still playing this game?

If you don't have the ability to "zip" the file, then email your save to me. Please post your screenshots as usual and email the save.

my username @1bcciv.com

ADDED: Almost forgot to do this from before..

[b]Submission Accepted[/b]

General Georges - [red]Victory:[/red] Cultural [red]Score:[/red] 8,620

RE: April 2007 CivIV Warlords Game of the Month

Zone — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:29:10 GMT

An alliance game eh? Should be fun.