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RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:01:08 GMT

Hoo-ah! :D

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Bolan Longpants — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:04:25 GMT

Awww, I am one day late. Domination victory in 1950 thx to my tankies. Good thing I can now immedtiately start the november game without the need to patch.:D

Congrats Konrad!

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Nuclearcow — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:42:41 GMT

Congrats, Konrad!!! :w00t:

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

mongoose201 — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:35:05 GMT

[b]Submission Accepted[/b]

Zigeuner: Score - 16,706 in 1975AD

The GOTM is now closed, and this means....

Congrats to Konrad von Richtmark for a GOTM victory in his maiden effort!

Well done, sir.. :)

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Zigeuner — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:55:20 GMT

[IMG]http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s175/solarsinned/Bolan_GOTM_score.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s175/solarsinned/Bolan_GOTM_F8.jpg[/IMG]

Two turns before I won, Ram and Ham joined forces. I was WAY more advanced than anyone else in the end, so I'm sure a warmonger would have done things differently (modern armor vs infantry = ouch). Oh well, maybe next time. :P

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

mongoose201 — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:10:53 GMT

November game will be up this weekend:)

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:17:09 GMT

mongoose, any idea on when you will be launching the November GotM? I'd want to know whether I should start a new Civ4 game or delay it until the next GotM is up.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Bolan Longpants — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:43:59 GMT

You guys don't have to wait for me.:) I am planning to finish the game anyway this weekend and I hope to see my first Civ4 agressive victory ever.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:25:57 GMT

It is 1.11 now and I could legitimately claim victory, but I'm fine with letting Bolan finish his game, in case he's fine with letting everyone else start on the November GotM in the meantime.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Zigeuner — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:34:20 GMT

Considering that it got posted a week into October, I'd say you have some time left Bolan. (I just hope this month's game won't have to wait for ya...)

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Bolan Longpants — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:16:20 GMT

well, unfortunately I did not finish it on time. However I am not gonna let this one slip away and will finish it in my own time.

[spoiler]The year 1894: Egypt and Otto are now my vassals. The war has been bloody. Especially the Ottomans were hard to conquer but Istanbul is mine now. Just finished researching industrialism and I am about to start building tanks.[/spoiler]

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Leo — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:06:01 GMT

Careful now..the red dudes GOT a culture victory in my game...:P

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Bolan Longpants — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:21:05 GMT

[spoiler]We have advanced into the 19th century and for the first time I am on top of the leader board. I am getting a bit worried my technical progress, I am getting a bit behind now beause of all the war. I am pleased to see Thebes is now a part of my empire. They stacked up 3 priest and a general in there: thank you! The red dudes seem to go for a cultural victory so now I have to deal with 2 civs and the end of the month dead line.[/spoiler]

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:26:55 GMT

[quote][b]Leo (10/29/2007)[/b][hr]Wow.

Cultural loss...those don't happen often. Ramesses and his dang Russians at about 1970ish.

Final score 4523! Woot go me!

[spoiler]I went all medieval on my neighbors...wiped 'em out...settled the continent and by the time I had boats that could cross to the mainland, they had gunpowder troops and I didn't...by the time I had gunpowder troops, they had infantry and artillery.

Even TRYING to be a warmonger...FAIL

*grumble*[/spoiler][/quote]

I know how you feel, but I didn't let that hinder me. When I built up for the invasion of Egypt, they had grenadiers and cuirassiers against my early Renaissance pike-and-shot army. So I built loads and loads of pikemen with formation and musketmen with pinch while beelining for Steel to get cannons, my best chance of getting a unit capable of hurting them. In the end, I was able to put Egypt under the iron boot, but the pikemen and musketmen died in droves just to keep the enemy off my cannons so they could deliver their collateral damage. It was an exercise in sheer masochism, but having conquered all of my starting continent, my military industry of national socialist proportions made me prevail in the end.

Any fool knows the importance of keeping up in military tech. Those who really know how to play this game don't play in terms of "need to do X or be screwed", but adapt.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

jerm — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:29:06 GMT

[quote]In a recent game I noticed something for the first time! Jerm, did you by any chance build the Great Wall? The Great Wall now gives you +2 Great Spy points instead of the +1 Great Engineer in Vanilla and Warlords![/quote]

Yeah, but that doesn't explain why the chances for a Great Engineer was like 70% and I was still getting GS's. ...and I think I had the Pyramids as well. Anyway, I don't think I'm going to finish.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

General Georges — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:15:43 GMT

In a recent game I noticed something for the first time! Jerm, did you by any chance build the Great Wall? The Great Wall now gives you +2 Great Spy points instead of the +1 Great Engineer in Vanilla and Warlords! :hehe:

[quote]I think I know why .[/quote]

I still don't get it.....lol :hehe:

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Leo — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:43:24 GMT

Wow.

Cultural loss...those don't happen often. Ramesses and his dang Russians at about 1970ish.

Final score 4523! Woot go me!

[spoiler]I went all medieval on my neighbors...wiped 'em out...settled the continent and by the time I had boats that could cross to the mainland, they had gunpowder troops and I didn't...by the time I had gunpowder troops, they had infantry and artillery.

Even TRYING to be a warmonger...FAIL

*grumble*[/spoiler]

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Bolan Longpants — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:32:54 GMT

[spoiler]The year 1750, we took 2 cities from Egypt which gives us a nice beach head on the large continent. Still there's a lot of work to be done. Right now we are second on the score list behind the Americans. So far I have managed to keep up in the tech race by stealing techies. The Protugese are most advanced but a bit smaller than the Americans. Only 3 days on the clock to finish this one but I will try my best.[/spoiler]

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

jerm — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:07:22 GMT

[quote]Lol! Zig, you wrote the same thing twice, but with different smileys lol.[/quote]

I think I know why :).

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

General Georges — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:03:25 GMT

Lol! Zig, you wrote the same thing twice, but with different smileys lol.

When I get great spies, I generally use them either to become their specialist, especially in early game, because they can give me a nice boots in espionage points versus other civs. When I end up getting multiple ones, I tend to make them their specialists all in the same city, that way when I build their building that make sthe city produce 50+ more espionage points, the benefit is even better. Comebine this with buildings such as the jail and Scottland Yard, and you got your very own super duper James Bond spy service. :w00t::P

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Zigeuner — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:31:01 GMT

[quote]Had I known the amount of GS's I was going to get, I think I'd have used them from the start to boost my espionage points instead of sending them to foreign lands.[/quote]A very early one is great for "cheap" techs (so great that at certain undisclosed sites it is considered cheating). After that, just make their building, or settle them. (Isn't this just about exactly what I said before? :w00t: )

[quote]Had I known the amount of GS's I was going to get, I think I'd have used them from the start to boost my espionage points instead of sending them to foreign lands.[/quote]A very early one is great for "cheap" techs (so great that at certain undisclosed sites it is considered cheating). After that, just make their building, or settle them. (Isn't this just about exactly what I said before? :P )

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

jerm — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:51:18 GMT

Well it's been set at zero for a while since I keep having Great Spies to make up for it. So far the tally is that I've gotten 5 Great Spies total and a Great Scientist from another city. The first three were wanted but the last two I really put an effort into getting a Great Engineer. It's just weird.

[quote]Does this mean you've sent great spies to infiltrate late in the game?[/quote]

I'm not really that late in the game yet. I'd say that the last GS I used was kind of a waste though. I only got one big tech out of it. I'm at about the beginning/middle of the Renaissance. I've got one left to use for something so I'll have to figure out what to use him for when I get back to it. Definately not going to use him for tech grabbing again. Had I known the amount of GS's I was going to get, I think I'd have used them from the start to boost my espionage points instead of sending them to foreign lands.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

General Georges — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:24:24 GMT

How much of your civ's income are you spending on espioange? I find that in games where I set the espionage slider to pretty high and my espionage is going great and I have a lot of those spy symbols beside other civ's leaders' names (I have more espionage points than they do), my chances of getting a great spy are pretty big and I get them often. In other games, where I keep the slider low, I never get great spys, and when I do, it's once in a blue moon.

Hope my theory is right lol. :hehe:

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Zigeuner — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:19:27 GMT

[quote]Well, it's helpful in stealing my way up in tech and then selling them off to the low players, though it's getting to the point where that is a bit wasteful so I'm gonna have to use them for something else. Anyone else having this issue?[/quote]Does this mean you've sent great spies to infiltrate late in the game? I hope not... Early on 4000+ espionage points (EPs) will get you 6 decent techies, but towards the end it will barely get you one. It is MUCH better to settle them as specialists or make their special building in cities producing a lot of EPs.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

jerm — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:56:23 GMT

I'm still playing though I have doubts about whether I can win without an assault on the "mainland". I'm still in the middle of the pack technologically and I've got this wierd problem. I keep setting up specialists in my capital so I get something besides a Great Spy and still they are the only Great Person I've gotten from the capital. The odds last time were like 70% in favor of a Great Engineer and Great Spy was low on the list yet I keep getting them. Must be a glitch. So far I've had 5 Great Spies I think. Well, it's helpful in stealing my way up in tech and then selling them off to the low players, though it's getting to the point where that is a bit wasteful so I'm gonna have to use them for something else. Anyone else having this issue?

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Zigeuner — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:51:36 GMT

I'm fooling around with specialist economies and keep starting new games... I still intend to finish this game. The Americans declared war on me; they couldn't take even a single city (in spite of a costly amphibious assault with infantry vs infantry :D) but I think I should pay them a visit with my tankies anyway. I won't come close to the scores submitted thus far though...

(Feel free to upload the new one. :))

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Leo — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:37:39 GMT

I r still playing, yes. Not losing yet!

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Bolan Longpants — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:22:56 GMT

I am playing this one. Around 1500AD now and at war. I hope to finish it before the end of the month but I cannot promise anything.:)

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

mongoose201 — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:21:25 GMT

Anyone else still playing this one?... about a week to go

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Copy and Paste — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:38:15 GMT

if i may post a little bookmark here,

i asked some questions about city razing in this topic :

[url]http://206.196.26.167/FindPost2244978.aspx[/url]

(i didnt want to monopolize this current topic :P)

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:52:05 GMT

I raze sometimes, and I'd estimate the odds of partisanship to be about 1/4 or 1/5, it hasn't happened to me too often. And even if it happens, I'd say having to garrison a city slows down your advance even more, especially in the case that the city is under the cultural influence of another city of your enemy and there's a very real revolt risk.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

jerm — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:58:16 GMT

Yeah but it seems like the citizens of the raised city always turn into enemy soldiers. I haven't done it enough to know the odds but it can slow you down if your advantage isn't that great to begin with. I usually only raise the last city if I'm going to do it at all.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Agamemnon — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:34:38 GMT

I'm aware, Jerm; everything in BtS is a calculated risk. To me, razing a city is sometimes better than keeping it. :D :P

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

jerm — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:13:18 GMT

Well with BtS, raising cities has it's own problems as well.

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Agamemnon — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:32:11 GMT

That's what "raze city" is for :D :P

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:32:46 GMT

[spoiler]Well, the last city I left them with was on the NW coast of my continent, with lots of desert squares around. It was too feeble and too far away from anything important to incite any ethnic uprisings, so I figured they might just as well be allowed to keep it, I would never have made a profit of it anyway, with the actual marginal maintenance cost of a city being more than what it says on the city screen (since it not only brings its own costs, but also increases the "number of cities" costs of every other city you own).[/spoiler]

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Agamemnon — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:43:57 GMT

Vassals suck. Take no prisoners. [img]http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/AR15firing.gif[/img]

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Zigeuner — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:00:30 GMT

[spoiler]{QUOTE}shortly after the Maya capitulated (I let them keep one worthless city just to give me the happiness bonus for having a vassal).{/QUOTE}
Heh, I did that as well and as a result their former capital seemed to be in a constant state of revolt. Listed % chance for revolt: 6. Actual % in my game: 75. I will not take a vassal in my next few games.[/disgusted][/spoiler]

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:09:43 GMT

[spoiler]For my part, I didn't destroy the Mayans until a bit into the Middle Ages, using crossbowmen and trebuchets for the conquest. I know I could have attacked earlier, but since I had a significant lead over them and a lot of uncolonized land left to be filled, I figured I could just as well let them help me fill up that land before I conquered them. I think my first caravel was only launched shortly after the Maya capitulated (I let them keep one worthless city just to give me the happiness bonus for having a vassal).[/spoiler]

RE: October 2007 BTS GOTM

Bolan Longpants — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:23:09 GMT

We're on it!

[spoiler]Mighty leader Bolan Longpants did destroy the Mayan empire BC. Two cities were captured using dog soldiers and now the natives are trying to reach optics asap. A spy is waiting as we expect to be behind one we meet the other civilization out there. My first move was settler to the NW which turned out to be a mistake. The blue spot is a much better location for a capitol because of the stone. We will see how much 'this mistake' will cost me in the end.[/spoiler]