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RE: Ode to the GOTM

Zigeuner — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:54:48 GMT

A fine league of gentlemen, for sure.

*mutters audibly* Yep, got some spare civ time now that Scipio diplomatically backed away from a pbem...

*runs away cackling*

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Leo — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:30:55 GMT

I have no preferences whatsoever.

Wow, Bolan, Leo, Dave and Zig...should be interesting

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Zigeuner — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:57:57 GMT

Got room for one more?

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Comedy Dave — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:50:52 GMT

Cool :) I'd rather a standard map as not sure my machine will cope with a large one! :P

Hopefully we can complete this one in less than a year! (that's how long it took for me and LC in our Civ3 game...) ;)

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Bolan Longpants — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:02:34 GMT

Okidoki,

I will start one this evening (BTS 3.13) and pass it over to Leo and Dave. Any preferences on civ/map?

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Comedy Dave — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:36:33 GMT

I'd be up for one too, Bolan. Dynasty games are a good way to learn! :)

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Leo — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:58:00 GMT

I'd be up for one Bolan, now that I don't feel completely worthless as a Civ 4 player.

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Bolan Longpants — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:02:49 GMT

PBEM games take too much time. Much more fun is a dynasty game (like Ness and LC are playing now). Is any one interested in playing one with me?

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Nuclearcow — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:32:58 GMT

[quote]I'm not a warmonger, I'm an imperialist [w00t] [/quote]

I'm not a warmonger, I'm a liberator. ;)

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Scipio Africanus — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:39:06 GMT

Sounds like we got three players for an RTW PBEM match. If we wanted to try something a bit different, we could do this instead of having an Axis-Allies contest: Set the difficulty to something like Monarch, or one step above Monarch (not sure how insane that is . . .). The three humans then play Russia, UK, and US (or some such) . . . Obviously Open Play (not historical would be requisite here).

Or, set it to a high difficulty, and three humans play some of the minor powers (e.g., Norway, Turkey, Italy). Honestly that doesn't interest me as much, but it could be fun too.

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Rishbhav — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:49:56 GMT

If y'all need another player/substitute for RTW I'm game...

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Scipio Africanus — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:24:42 GMT

[quote][b]Zigeuner (11/13/2007)[/b][hr]It's funny you think beating up AIs is formulaic, and then propose a pbem using a mod (that you've played quite a bit, I'm sure) AND claim for yourself the one civ in that mod that stands out as hopelessly overpowered. It's like me challenging you to a game of Fall from Heaven and insist on starting as Hyborem. Why not make it the 1939 version? That leaves Germany with less of an advantage... :P

Besides, right now pbems should use vanilla or Warlords. You're welcome to a 2-player game (without any nasty warmongers such as Konrad and Nuke :ermm: ), and can even pick yer own civ and settings and starting era and map and all that. I'll go with random. *slaps Scip across face with leather glove*

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Au contraire Zig frere *makes musketeer like flourish with feathered cap, unobtrusively smacking Zig in the face with the flat of his sword*

1936 is advantageous to the Germ player if it is set to Historical or Random Historical. With Open Play, clever allies should be able to repeat the errors of history. Having played it through to late 1942 against a Noble AI, I know the basics of how it works, and how incompetent the AI is. I'd just like to see how a human handles it. If folks are afraid I can understand; I did crush von Clausewitz, LC, and Psweet in the old C3C 50-turn War in the Pacific scenario *blows on fingernails and rubs them on jacket*

If you think Germany is such a powerhouse, I'm happy to let you play them and take an alternate position myself.

Not interested in a Vanilla or Warlords game; BTS is the way of the future, but I have to admit, the crappy patchup situation is truly annoying in this regard. Why we continue to give Patchaxis our $$ I cannot fathom . . . oh yeah, I guess I can fathom. Even with all the patchiness, their games are still cutting edge . . .

I like scenarios more than random epic games, thus my interest in a PBEM with a scenario. Random epic game PBEMs are a gamble that someone gets shafted with a truly unbalanced start. But I'd be willing to try an epic game too. I'd ask for some advance start though, since the game is so infernally boring at start.

Post medieval are my era(s) of choice, but pick any scenario you like, even a fan-made one which I will not have played. Nothing like knowing there are humans on the other end of the line to take advantage of your errors to put momentum in the learning curve.

ADDIT:

[quote]You're welcome to a 2-player game (without any nasty warmongers such as Konrad and Nuke ), and can even pick yer own civ and settings and starting era and map and all that.[/quote]

Not sure we ever exchanged emails. I'll send ya a PM with my email address and we can get a little duel going.

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:46:21 GMT

Scipio, I'm up for a PBEM, but I'll have to check out Road to War on my own in singleplayer first.

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:45:01 GMT

I'm not a warmonger, I'm an imperialist :w00t:

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Zigeuner — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:23:39 GMT

It's funny you think beating up AIs is formulaic, and then propose a pbem using a mod (that you've played quite a bit, I'm sure) AND claim for yourself the one civ in that mod that stands out as hopelessly overpowered. It's like me challenging you to a game of Fall from Heaven and insist on starting as Hyborem. Why not make it the 1939 version? That leaves Germany with less of an advantage... :P

Besides, right now pbems should use vanilla or Warlords. You're welcome to a 2-player game (without any nasty warmongers such as Konrad and Nuke :ermm: ), and can even pick yer own civ and settings and starting era and map and all that. I'll go with random. *slaps Scip across face with leather glove*

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Scipio Africanus — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:15:05 GMT

[quote][b]Comedy Dave (11/12/2007)[/b][hr]That would be a cool test...

...but if they release a new patch then your game is stuffed... :hehe:[/quote]

There are apparently still issues in the 3.13 version, so my guess is that yes another patch will be forthcoming . . . probably just about the time Civ 5 Beyond the Beyond . . . comes out :P

Jerm, Tones, Rishbav and I have finally (after two months of me having problems with home internet in my new New England residence) got our "The Next War Mod" PBEM up and running. Think we're up to about turn 7 or 9 now, after just about a week of playing?

At only 200 turns, and accounting for lost days (which are inevitable) we MIGHT actually be able to finish it in a year to two years.

RTW 1936 has 3 turns per month, and 9 or 10 years of play time allowed (3X12=36)*10=360 turns. Course if the allies were really effective and sneaky maybe they could bring WWII to a close earlier than in real history :P

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Nuclearcow — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:11 GMT

Sounds fun, but you're right in that it could take eternity to finish. If we all worked the same hours and the same days, it could work. I'm about to start working a night shift and drive to Denver, about an hour and 15 min each way, and I fear my spare time will take a big dip.

Its hard enough to get the evil despots (team Omega) to return their turn. ;) (subtle jab)

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Comedy Dave — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:04:24 GMT

That would be a cool test...

...but if they release a new patch then your game is stuffed... :hehe:

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Scipio Africanus — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:54:25 GMT

'Outsmarting' the AI is one thing. Winning a PBEM is something entirely different . . . Game?

Road to War 1936, open rules. You pick whomever you want, I'll play Germany.

Konrad as Stalin, Zig as UK, Nuklarcow as US? I think four humans is about all we should try.

. . . Course, it'll take us years to finish, but then that just means it takes 'real' endurance, not that copy-and-paste formulaic 'endurance' that is so useful against the AI ;)

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Zigeuner — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:43:34 GMT

Heh, if I sucked I would just blame it on the lacking realism of certain game mechanics, and read Pravda online instead of a strategy article or two... :P

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Nuclearcow — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:43:27 GMT

Yes, Zig. Wouldn't it be more fun if you sucked? :D

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Scipio Africanus — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:27:40 GMT

I don't understand why you guys are so motivated to get so good at these games so fast. Seems like a damn waste of good game dollars investment to me :)

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Zigeuner — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:33:41 GMT

Just to spur you guys on, I finished this one in 1830AD, with just over 47,000 points. You're gonna need those fast ships now, mates. :D

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Nuclearcow — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:53:57 GMT

It would be fun to play the next one at Emperor level. There are some on occassion who do lose, so it wouldn't be very fun for them if they ALL were on Monarch difficulty, but for some of us, it might be fun now and then.

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Zigeuner — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:50:01 GMT

Sounds like you're just playing way below your comfort level. Wouldn't it be more exciting to have GOTMs on emperor when it would be a question of CAN you win, not how fast can you win? Leave prince to others who still find it a challenge... :P

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Nuclearcow — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:35:09 GMT

I agree completely. Work has gotten in the way of me doing a lot of this one yet (In the 1500s, maybe?), but I went to war in this one much earlier than I ever would normally JUST because I know I need to win quicker than normal if I'm to reclaim my rightful title of GOTM winner. :P Its fun, huh?

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:42:55 GMT

Yeah, but it's not like it gets in the way. I play a standard-speed game in 7-8 hours, and GOTMs happen only once a month.

RE: Ode to the GOTM

Scipio Africanus — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:49:55 GMT

Don't you have some physics homework you need to be doing!?

Ode to the GOTM

Konrad von Richtmark — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:50:03 GMT

I love the GOTMs so much :D

Before signing up, I was in something of a difficulty level trap. I had mastered Monarch to the extent where I won almost every game, but was getting repeatedly pummeled on Emperor to the extent where the game just weighed down on me. I even got so tired of being pummelled that I had to put Civ4 on the shelf for a while and check out Halo for some variety :w00t:

There's no question whether I'm able to win a Prince level game, but it doesn't matter, since I'm competing against humans. Now, even when a game has come to the point where there's no question of whether I will win, it doesn't devolve into a tiresome slugging match of how-many-enemies-will-I-still-have-to-conquer, but into a frantic race to win as quickly as possible, knowing that each turn counts.

Now, if you excuse me, I have a Viking Empire to lead to world conquest :)