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RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

tones — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:33:59 GMT

Having played alongside him on Team Omega I must admit the man is damn good. Thank God he's not Brazilian.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Nuclearcow — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:35:47 GMT

Congrats, Konrad! :cool:

I imagine that Corporal rank won't last long at all.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

mongoose201 — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:16:44 GMT

Congrats to Konrad von Richtmark, as he is BTS GOTM Champion for May!

Score: 28,443 Victory: Diplomatic in 1865

This is his second GOTM victory.. (Alas, still a corporal....) :)

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Nuclearcow — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:33:26 GMT

[quote]And here it is. Doesn't count but...[/quote]Thanks for your honesty, Arty. :)

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Artymus — Fri, 30 May 2008 16:15:54 GMT

Ok. I stress that this month I was just playing along for fun as my first effort only lasted about 50 turns until an axeman taught my lone archer what raging barbs really means. I'd never played raging barbs before so I under estimated the step up and found out the hard way... game(otm) over.

But game (not of the month) back on! :)

Since it seemed like great fun and I now knew the scale of task properly, I started over to play it through fully, with beefed up military, for fun. And here it is. Doesn't count but...

A Cultural Victory in 1944.

What a month to mess up on! :P ...Oh well there's always june. :D

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Wed, 28 May 2008 15:27:42 GMT

Babylon is a nasty neighbor. Expands fast and has these little archers that your axes and swords can't take on very well.

I will not reach the end of this game. Too much punishment, too little time... :)

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Copy and Paste — Wed, 28 May 2008 01:47:44 GMT

lol...

I managed NOT to win that game. :hehe:
(eventhough my score would have been like 8k lol)

After invading half of Rome to the west, I kinda fell asleep on my tech lead, not beeing aware that a space race victory won't happen before the end of the game because the barbarians slowed the world research path so much.

When I realised it, it was too late to trigger a diplomatic victory.
Because Babylon was on like half of the pangea...

So my tech lead was just useless.

I still can invade babylon. but that war doesn't worth it as neither babylon or rome will vote for me after that.

Lesson learned : To have a long term plan, to follow it, and to be careful of all the factors.

I will submit next one ! :w00t:

But that GOTM was 100% fun anyway ! Thanks.
I will concider turning raging barbarians ON more often in my solo games. I didn't realised it could be so much fun.
Actually, I will in the next one.

see you online.
cheers !

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

mongoose201 — Tue, 27 May 2008 23:20:36 GMT

[b]Submission Accepted:[/b]

Konrad von Richtmark - Score: 28,443 Victory: Diplomatic in 1865

The new high score with a few days left from submission stragglers..

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Konrad von Richtmark — Fri, 23 May 2008 08:33:21 GMT

10 units per city? That's a whole lot.

The challenge in the early game was indeed to gauge just how secure you are, how much effort you can afford to allocate to long-term growth rather than short-term defence needs. I don't think I ever had more than 4 units actively defending a city, usually only 3.

The trick to effective city defence was, I realized after a while, not to wait for the barbs to come to you, but take the fight to them. If you sit in your cities, they will keep raiding tile improvements, and occasionally assault the city in force. I figure that every barb that shows up on the border will attack sooner or later, so I might as well go out and meet him on favourable terms. I don't know exactly how the barb AI works, but there seems to be a set chance to attack any adjacent unit belonging to a civ. So I go out, walking through defensive terrain, hoping to "provoke" them into attacking me when in it. They usually do sooner or later.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Copy and Paste — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:53:58 GMT

This is only my second attempt on a GOTM...
As I recently had my first success on Prince level, I downloaded this one just to give it a try.

And I can't believe I made it to my current time, AD 1200 or so !

I think I kinda overreacted to the barbarian menace lol
After I almost got eaten in the first turns, I kept producing units to get like 10 in each of my two cities :w00t:.
And I was micro-managing them like mad.

And until not so much time ago, I only got two cities. ha ha.

I was also quite surprised to see that 2 AI got eaten by the barbarians.
On the "Most powerful, most advanced civs bla bla" pop-ups, I can see that we are only 3 civs remaining.

It seems that the AI doesn't change its playing style facing raging barbarians.

I wasn't actually expecting this option to be a advantage for me !
:)

Anyway, I'm quite excited to think that this GOTM might be my first submitable GOTM !
eventhough my score won't reach the skies of all yours !

Anyway, thanks for this save, quite colorful so far !

regards,

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

-M- — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:37:43 GMT

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Thu, 22 May 2008 12:28:24 GMT

[quote]I invaded, took two cities, sent in the missionaries, made peace, and returned the cities. Cool, huh?[/quote]*mutters* Ah, so that's the way to do it... I mean, that's exactly what I was planning!

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Konrad von Richtmark — Wed, 21 May 2008 18:42:21 GMT

I too found myself struggling for my existence at the start of the game. Founded Konstantinye (not Istanbul... stupid history-impaired game devs...) on the place where the settler started. Since my immediate production and defence tech needs were met, I started researching Theology to get the Apostolic Palace and go for a relatively early diplomatic win.

I founded Ankara to the northwest to link up the copper and the horseys, after which I built an axemen in both cities. Hardly had I done that before the barbarians started pouring in from everywhere. Ankara was very close to being lost, it probably would have if a particular barb would have attacked it right away rather than stopped to plunder a farm - that one turn was enough for reinforcements from Konstantinye to arrive. For a while, I was barely hanging on, using nearly all of my production output to build more axemen. After a while, I had a few ones with Combat I + II and Shock, which helped to take to the field against the barbs, allowing defence of tile improvements at minimal cost.

Eventually I reached a level of military efficiency which allowed me a berth to build Edirne to the west of Kosntantinye. I was lucky to get Horseback Riding from a goody hut, giving me horse archers as another defensive tool against the barbs which axemen are less effective against (such as other axemen).

Apparently my barb management was far more effective than that of other civs; I managed to stay on top in score almost from the beginning. The Inca didn't make it (causing the peculiarity of the Confucian holy city under barb control), and the Celts were severely behind the rest.

Long story short, for a diplomatic win with the Apostolic Palace, I needed to infiltrate every civ with Judaism, and I needed to spread it far enough [i]not[/i] to have enough votes to win the election on my own (in which case the election never comes up), but still preferably be close enough to only need the votes of one other civ. The Babylonians and the Romans were a-ok with missionary work, but the Celts refused to open borders. I invaded, took two cities, sent in the missionaries, made peace, and returned the cities. Cool, huh?

Still, it eventually became the Celts that voted me to victory, them being most susceptible to bribery and flattery. They were far, far behind everyone else in tech, so I shared my secrets with them. The Romans, as is historically appropriate, attacked the Celts several times. Roman legions were decimated by walls of lead from the janissaries. The Romans were beaten back, and Celtic cities liberated. Boudicca appreciated mucho, eventually voting for me.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Wed, 21 May 2008 14:29:38 GMT

Heh, at the rate I'm playing I should be finished by June 1, 2009. I've decided on some method to this madness, but it's just horrible that there is no coast or neighbor in sight to block off some points of entry. I wonder if a sadist came up with the idea... :P

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Scipio Africanus — Wed, 21 May 2008 14:11:43 GMT

28K eh? Well that pretty much nixed my interest in finishing that one.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Nuclearcow — Wed, 21 May 2008 10:15:10 GMT

Nice score, Konrad. :)

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Konrad von Richtmark — Tue, 20 May 2008 20:09:38 GMT

Yeah, diplomatic victory.

[img]http://www.1bcciv.com/Attachment1115.aspx[/img]

Finally made it in 1865. Had to spam Jewish missionaries into any foreign city I could reach, just to decrease my own voting power. After feeding them with resources, gifting them techs, helping them out against the Romans and liberating their cities, I finally managed to bribe the Celts to vote for me as Chief Rabbi of the World.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

anfieldrapper — Tue, 20 May 2008 15:18:25 GMT

Many thanks for the quick and useful response Artymus, I have patched my game and shall give it a go!

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Artymus — Tue, 20 May 2008 14:46:58 GMT

Are you using version 3.13? That is the latest version and the one used for this game. If not you can get the latest beyond the sword patch here: [url=http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7412]v3.13[/url]

Ok the best thing happened for me in this game, I built the pyramids in [b]AD[/b] 1460!! :w00t: Anybody else build an ancient wonder as late as this? The settings for this one of course and the fact that nobody else seemed too bothered made that possible. But I thought it was pretty cool to be about to research the Printing Press and have built both the Sistine Chapel and Notre Dame before starting construction of the Pyramids! :D

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

anfieldrapper — Tue, 20 May 2008 13:36:10 GMT

I tried to load this but got a message 'Cannot load version 301, expected version 300 or lower' I guess this is a patching issue - please tell me where I can download the correct update or if it something else help!

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Nuclearcow — Mon, 19 May 2008 23:55:23 GMT

You mean diplomatic win, right Konrad?

Nice Jerk, thanks for posting your score and "welcome!" to the boards! :cool:

The scores on this game seem to be quite a bit lower than normal. I think a much lower score might take it this month.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Konrad von Richtmark — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:55:25 GMT

I just found out, mid-game, that you can't get a cultural win if you have enough votes to win the elections on your own. Go figure.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Scipio Africanus — Mon, 19 May 2008 08:00:49 GMT

I binged on it all day yesterday. In one session got up to about 1800. Built the lionshare of the wonders in Istanbul. Founded Hindu, Confuc, and Tao. One of the near neighbrs attacked me a couple times, but I've been buddies with other one from the beginning. At this point, I have a highly cultured but rather small (5 cities?) civ and whereas the leader who founded Judaism has rifleman I have Janissaries. Not sure what to do now. I have not distributed culture between that many cities so I'm not sure a cultural is really feasible, and also because I'm behind in Techs not sure I"ll be able to get UN. If I could then I could win a diplo I think.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Genty — Mon, 19 May 2008 06:58:33 GMT

Ouch, I got double teamed in the end and I could just not hold them off, destroyed in 1912. A bit disappointed but my first attempt on Prince mode so not a bad attempt. I can't believe how many units they sent, it was impossible to hold the buggers off.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Nice Jerk — Mon, 19 May 2008 04:00:15 GMT

By cultural victory in the late 1900's.

Spamming axemen in the begining is all you need to do to keep the barbs away. My score is so low because Hannibal ended up taking over 45%+ of the map. So he had 4000 score and I had 2000. That's what I get for being too lazy to go to war and just building wonders and missionaries all game.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

mongoose201 — Sun, 18 May 2008 14:04:42 GMT

[quote][b]Scipio Africanus (5/18/2008)[/b][hr]Whats the deadline. Since I got my rig reinstalled, I think I'll try it. Will let you know later today if it looks like I'll actually run the distance or not.[/quote]

Submissions need to be in by June 1st. ;) Hope it works for ya this time...

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Scipio Africanus — Sun, 18 May 2008 14:02:59 GMT

Whats the deadline. Since I got my rig reinstalled, I think I'll try it. Will let you know later today if it looks like I'll actually run the distance or not.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

mongoose201 — Sun, 18 May 2008 13:49:45 GMT

[b]Submission Accepted:[/b]

Nuclearcow - Score: 17,564 Victory: Cultural in 1932

Nice score on this map, sir...

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

mongoose201 — Sun, 18 May 2008 13:32:11 GMT

[quote][b]tones (5/18/2008)[/b][hr]NOOOOOOOOO! My first ever Civ lockup on this machine! Years of work down the drain. The screen froze and the sound stuttered and I had to switch off the power. Booohooohooooo:crying::crying::angry:

WHY!!!!!????? I had the barbarians beaten and everything![/quote]

Check your autosave folder. ;)

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

tones — Sun, 18 May 2008 13:04:50 GMT

NOOOOOOOOO! My first ever Civ lockup on this machine! Years of work down the drain. The screen froze and the sound stuttered and I had to switch off the power. Booohooohooooo:crying::crying::angry:

WHY!!!!!????? I had the barbarians beaten and everything!

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Genty — Sun, 18 May 2008 05:59:59 GMT

I'm somewhere in the 1800's now and although the Barbarians are no longer any problem at all, the Babylonians have just declared war and I had lapsed somewhat on my military while trying to catch up with techs. Now scrambling all I can to hold the buggers off but they are strong so this could get very messy. Even if I end up winning this I don't think I will get a decent score.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Sat, 17 May 2008 23:33:46 GMT

Ouch indeed. I managed to snatch two saucy resources early on with my second city (settler built almost off the bat), but teching was so slow that I couldn't focus on more expansion. Instead I built the Great Library and am now poppoppopping great scientists to help me out. I have no idea what to do next. There seems to be no end to the buggers. It's taking 6 units per city to keep them off my turf. I may just start a regular game to, um, differentiate a little... ;)

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Konrad von Richtmark — Thu, 15 May 2008 19:06:07 GMT

Ow, the barbs are rough! I went straight for the copper, and started building axemen as soon as I had it linked, but I was still very close to losing my 2nd city at one point. Had a particular barbarian attacked it rather than stopped to plunder a cattle ranch, I think I would have lost it. Luckily that one turn was enough to bring in reinforcements.

Things are definitely under control now, and I'm the leader of the civs I've discovered this far. But it's 1040 AD, and I've hardly got into the Middle Ages! Raging barbs really impedes growth.

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

ontrial — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:51:53 GMT

fighting hard tho i think im over the worst of the barbs, even did alot of expanding during the attacks which i think helped me survive.
the worlds begining to fill up a bit now tho an im in last place due to killing my economy and not being able to improve my lands till i was better settled. if i can pull back a decent cash flow il do great end game with my current land area im just over extended

very nice game this month

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Genty — Thu, 15 May 2008 17:14:48 GMT

Well, I have started this and progressed quite a bit today, I have managed to survive when at one point I was sure to be toast. Still struggling a bit with the control of the barbarians, just managing to keep my 2 towns, everyone else seems to be struggling too though as my position seems to be fluctuating somewhat! Just need a bit of luck and I will be able to progress better. Keeping that Iron resource is key!

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

-M- — Thu, 15 May 2008 13:47:19 GMT

Ziguener the Immortalle :)

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Zigeuner — Wed, 14 May 2008 23:24:01 GMT

I have come to reclaim what is rightfully mine... (or be overrun by the masses, whichever way it goes. :) )

*downloading*

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Nuclearcow — Mon, 12 May 2008 07:56:42 GMT

Build a nice military early as those barbarians come in waves on this one.

Welcome! :)

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

mongoose201 — Mon, 12 May 2008 07:55:12 GMT

[quote][b]Genty (5/12/2008)[/b][hr]Just found this forum, not played civilization for a good while now but I intend to get back into it shortly and hopefully have a bash at this challange! Will be rusty so will probably fail but worth a shot![/quote]

Welcome! :)

RE: May 2008 CivIV BTS Game of the Month

Genty — Mon, 12 May 2008 07:20:14 GMT

Just found this forum, not played civilization for a good while now but I intend to get back into it shortly and hopefully have a bash at this challange! Will be rusty so will probably fail but worth a shot!