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RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:19:19 GMT

Congratulations to Artymus. He is the winner of our first official Challenge of the Month, the Champion of Ægypt. Way to go! ;)

[quote]Heh heh. Fair 'nuff. I suppose I could have another go but what would be the point? I have no idea how to up the score in one of these mods apart from achieving the UHV's or whatever they're called.[/quote]

Tones, to answer your question, I don't know if score works the same in mod as regular game, but I believe score is influenced by territory, population, wonders, technology, etc. So the more of those you get the higher your score....if anyone is more certain on this I would like to know.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:35:50 GMT

[quote][b]Scipio Africanus (12/15/2008)[/b][hr]Why don't we do a Charlemagne test? Pretty hard mod/scenario.[/quote]

That's a good suggestion doc. I've already got one lined up for the next month, given the holidays and all, I am going with another quick one from Rhye's. It will be posted tomorrow when I announce the winner.

Come mid January we will deviate and our challenge will be HRE themed. ;)

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:47:10 GMT

Haha. See what you've done tones. :P

There is no bonuses or penalties. The score that what you report. I am not even in favor of limiting your attempts to three tries, but people seem to want to do it that way....How many times you attempt does not factor into the score. Final word.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Artymus — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:15:27 GMT

Accidentally taking over the Greeks costs me 500 points? ...harsh lesson! :unsure: It really should have been a more explanatory option box! :P

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Scipio Africanus — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:23:51 GMT

Why don't we do a Charlemagne test? Pretty hard mod/scenario.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

tones — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:34:30 GMT

[quote]Fine, you get bonus points. I'll give you 500. That still doesn't give you more than Artymus! [/quote]

Heh heh. Fair 'nuff. I suppose I could have another go but what would be the point? I have no idea how to up the score in one of these mods apart from achieving the UHV's or whatever they're called.

At least I beat you:P

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:57:42 GMT

[quote]ps I think I deserve extra points for only making one attempt![/quote]

Not a bad thought. Weight the score to reflect number of tries. Problem with this is, one, how do we weight it, and two, it is unverifiable. I have no way of knowing how many times people actually try it. If you say you beat it in one try, and that elevates your score, why would anyone in their right mind say it took them two tries. Because they are honest? Ha Ha Ha. Ho ho ho. :w00t:

Fine, you get bonus points. I'll give you 500. That still doesn't give you more than Artymus! :P

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

tones — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:12:29 GMT

Heh, this was easy. Only took two hours.

ps I think I deserve extra points for only making one attempt!

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:10:47 GMT

Please note, this challenge ends on Monday at 11:59 PM.

Winner will be announced Tuesday.

New Challenge will be unveiled on Monday as well.

Can any one rise to the occasion this weekend and beat Artymus?!??

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:01:15 GMT

Wow, Artymus, you beat me as well. I had something in the area of 6400 points, on my first try, 1hr and 20 min, one sitting. This one wasn't even funny, or rather it was a lot of fun!

I'll post a detailed report after the deadline is up so that all the newbies can learn better strategy. :)

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RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Genty — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:55:34 GMT

Oh poo you beat me! :crying:

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Artymus — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:17:33 GMT

Ok here's my effort. Success with 3/3 UHV's completed! :)

I enjoyed that one, after I learned not to take control of the Greek civilization by accident on my first attempt :P Nice mod.

[img]http://1bcciv.com/Attachment1180.aspx[/img]

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Rishbhav — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:05:03 GMT

Tones, the RFC Atlas Locus linked to earlier should tell you what you need to conquer for the UHV; just check the "turkish" box...

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

tones — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:42:30 GMT

I am sure I'll have a go at this, but at the moment I'm still tackling the Turkish "practice" session I set myself. I find it unbelieveably frustrating not knowing exactly what the victory requirements are. I'm supposed to conquer Mesopotamia and the Black Sea area but where does it all begin and end? Fer gods sake I've got airships roamin' the skies in the seventeenth century and the biggest Empire by a million miles but can I win??? No, probably because I haven't captured some stupid desert square in the corner of the map. Grrrrrr.....

At least the Egypian victory conditions seem pretty black and white.

ps WARNING you don't seem to get a free civic change during a golden age under this mod! This pissed me off as well.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Zigeuner — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:22:28 GMT

[quote]I think I had everything by turn 113.[/quote]That means I'm sure I had everything by turn 143. :)

Perhaps we should not be allowed to post spoilers in here, since people have 3 attempts. I just backspaced mine away, at any event.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Scipio Africanus — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:23:25 GMT

[quote][b]Zigeuner (11/16/2008)[/b][hr]Human or not, I still got beaten. Well done, Genty![/quote]

So did you complete all UHVs on time or not? :unsure:

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Zigeuner — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:06:05 GMT

Human or not, I still got beaten. Well done, Genty!

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Genty — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:49:44 GMT

Second attempt was more sucessful, completed all 3 of the requirements!

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

tones — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:20:23 GMT

Zig, you are not human.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Zigeuner — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:38:14 GMT

Hah, that took all of 46 minutes. I think I had everything by turn 113. :)

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Genty — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:22:07 GMT

First attempt, I got 2/3 because I didn't realise there was a turn limit on the buildings, will have to have a another bash later on to sort that out!

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Scipio Africanus — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:14:07 GMT

My third and final try on Egypt. Still did not get more than 2/3 UHVs. These things are not easy. Pretty sure I got a higher score on this one than the previous one.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:50:04 GMT

I am going outta town until thursday. Rish will be able to answer any questions you have about Rhye's. When I return we can deal with administrative issues.

Cheers,

Loc.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:47:56 GMT

Definitely try it again. ;)

I will say, for this scenario, post it on the cut off date right before turn 143. Every scenario is quite different, so rules are going to have to be developed on a case by case basis, but for this one, and others like this one, we will go with the turn before, that way the moderators can hit entire and tally the final score for each participant. That is how the main GOTM is done and that is how we shall do this one. :)

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Scipio Africanus — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:23:05 GMT

[quote][b]Locus Coeruleus (11/15/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Scipio Africanus (11/15/2008)[/b][hr]So I fired up the Chinese and played a bit. Missed one of my three "historical victory" conditions by a few turns. What happens in those instances? Do you just keep playing and try for a Space Race, Diplo, etc.?[/quote]

No. In this scenario, the only victory that matters is getting the 3 UHV points.

[quote]If you get the historical win, does the game know you just won and give you a victory animation or are the historicals effectively just house rules?[/quote]

From what I've read, if the last UHV is achieved in some specific year (turn) you must play through to that year, and then the game victory will be triggered and you will be ranked from Dan Quayle all the way to the top of the list.

So in your case, if you ended up with all 3 UHV points, and you are at turn 140, just hit enter 3 times, and a victory should be announced. Like I said, I've never got to that point, so I don't know, but that is what I've read.

BTW, to determine if you get a UHV, look to the bottom right corner of the main game screen where it lists all of the Leaders and their scores. next to each Civ, you will see a UHV tracker, which will say 0/3 or 1/3, 2/3 or 3/3. That is how you know if you've met a goal.

Cheers. ;)[/quote]

Okay, so going back and continuing at turn 140: I'm at turn 144, I've got 2/3 down in the UHV window (definitely missed UHV 1 by about 50 culture points [dang it!]. In terms of the GOTM, what should I do? This was my second attempt, so maybe I should do one more?

I will give it another try, but want to post this .sav properly so that if it turns out to be my best attempt it is properly scored.

So assuming we do not get 3 of 3 of the UHVs: the final UHV for Egypt is to get >5000 culture by turn 143. Should we post our .savs in the turn immediately before the closing year for the final UHV (142), on the year of the third UHV (143), 0r for the year immediately after (144)?

In the event that you do not get all three UHVs, I think you should post the .sav for the turn immediately AFTER the year when the last UHV comes due (i.e., turn 144 for Egypt). This is because, the UHV counter does not update until after the year when any given UHV is due.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:13:37 GMT

[quote][b]Scipio Africanus (11/15/2008)[/b][hr]So I fired up the Chinese and played a bit. Missed one of my three "historical victory" conditions by a few turns. What happens in those instances? Do you just keep playing and try for a Space Race, Diplo, etc.?[/quote]

No. In this scenario, the only victory that matters is getting the 3 UHV points.

[quote]If you get the historical win, does the game know you just won and give you a victory animation or are the historicals effectively just house rules?[/quote]

From what I've read, if the last UHV is achieved in some specific year (turn) you must play through to that year, and then the game victory will be triggered and you will be ranked from Dan Quayle all the way to the top of the list.

So in your case, if you ended up with all 3 UHV points, and you are at turn 140, just hit enter 3 times, and a victory should be announced. Like I said, I've never got to that point, so I don't know, but that is what I've read.

BTW, to determine if you get a UHV, look to the bottom right corner of the main game screen where it lists all of the Leaders and their scores. next to each Civ, you will see a UHV tracker, which will say 0/3 or 1/3, 2/3 or 3/3. That is how you know if you've met a goal.

Cheers. ;)

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Scipio Africanus — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:56:58 GMT

ADDIT: on second consideration: I did not actually make quest one (500 cult in 700 BC turn 86). I had an auto save of turn 84 that I loaded up and replayed a couple turns as I had played originally. I would have only had 456 culture on Turn 86 :(

But I did get quests two and three!

Second Try: Pyramids and Gr Libr in Newt-Rst, Gr Lighthouse in Aarru-Hetep (all before turn 133).

Pretty sure (though not absolutely sure) I had 500 culture by turn 86. Is there a way to check that?

Turn 140: just popped a culture bomb in Aarru-Hetep (cult=4442.6) and in Newt-Rst (cult=1938.79) total culture = 6381.39.

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Scipio Africanus — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:23:29 GMT

First try: conquered Yerushaliyam but missed the Pyramids . . .

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Scipio Africanus — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:55:53 GMT

So I fired up the Chinese and played a bit. Missed one of my three "historical victory" conditions by a few turns. What happens in those instances? Do you just keep playing and try for a Space Race, Diplo, etc.?

If you get the historical win, does the game know you just won and give you a victory animation or are the historicals effectively just house rules?

RE: Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:47:49 GMT

A coupl'a things too....

If you are not familiar with Rhye's and Fall Mod, but would like to play...

1. You don't know what year it is until you research the Calendar. For a scenario like this one, that is not essential because victory conditions are also described in terms of turn number.

2. You may want to go to the Civilopedia and look at this:

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Rhye's of Ægypt Challenege

Locus Coeruleus — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:43:58 GMT

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So once you've got the update, [url=http://www.1bcciv.com/Topic2264102-80-1.aspx]HERE![/url], you will be able to play the game on the same conditions as the rest of us.

The first Rhye's challenge is to turn a small tribe on the River Nile into a Cultural Powerhouse of the Mediterranean. They call themselves Egyptians, and their leader is Ramesses, and your quest is as follows:

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[b]* Have more than 500 Culture in 700 BC (turn 86)
* Build the Pyramids, the Great Library, and the Great Lighthouse by 250 AD (turn 133)
* Have more than 5000 Culture in 450 AD (turn 143)[/b]

The starting conditions are as follows:

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And so it begins...

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with humble beginnings...

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Can you rise to the challenge???? :w00t:

The Rules are Simple. Complete each of the 3 UHV quests and post a screenshot indicating you have done this.

As this is a time locked quest, i.e., you will meet, or not, the 3rd goal by a specific turn (turn 143), the grand champion will be determined by a combination of having achieved all three quests, with the highest score, if there should be a tie.

If no one is able to achieve all three quests, then the individual with the highest score, and achieving two quests will be declared winner, and so on and so forth.

Unlike your standard GOTM, multiple attempts are allowed, as the object is not to play through 6000 years of history and end up with the highest score, but to complete the most quests and end up with the highest score. If you miss the first quest, for example, have a go at it again, if you fancy.

Please post a screenshot of your victory and email the final sav to:
gotm@1bcciv.com

Are there any questions? :)

I've attached a zip of the sav, if this does not work, I've emailed it to NC and he can post it.