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6/17/2004 12:36 PM


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Pay the consequences! I thought I'd write a quick post on how to threaten.

For the most case, threats in Civ3 don't give good results. The most that happens is you get 10 gold or they reject your silly demand and they get slightly more annoyed with you... Which gets you nowhere what so ever. So heres a quick method to follow.

First thing, you're not going to get huge things with demands and the damage that demanding will cause to your relationship with that civ... is it really worth it? So why simply demand?

Ensure that you're demanding from a civ that couldn't fight a war vs you... At very least if you were at war with them, they'd be paying you alot of gold for peace. The bigger the gap between you and them the better. That 'accept this deal or pay the consequences' option in the diplomacy screen... Ya NEVER press that. When in the negotiation screen, at the bottom you'll see an option saying 'active'. Click on that and it'll display all current trades and treaties signed with this civ. Click on the peace (remember peace treaties have a minimum 20 turns... Don't click on it until after this time frame is up)... It will ask you if you wish to renegotiate this deal. Click yes... It's much easier to get what you want by renegotiating peace than simply demanding it. If you don't come to a deal, you will be at war... and the AI does know this. Now it's like a standard peace negotiation... Ask for what you want. If you don't get what you want, well exit negotiations and war is declared. I'm often able to get a tech and some gold by doing this... I've even had an island city surrendered to me.

I'm not yet sure what type of diplomatic effects this renegotiation has yet... I'd imagine it would be harmful to your relationship with that civ atleast. But this works much better than just demanding.


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In the Regent game I'm currently playing, the Vikings were right next to my empire. I was in a war with the Zulu's, and had built up a sizeable force of knights.

I made a threat to the vikings to give me a size 2 city they had right on my border but a little away from their own closest city, and it worked. He gave the city up and went from polite to cautious. So there are times when this works, though I do not know for sure when those times are.
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6/17/2004 5:59 PM


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Ensure that you're demanding from a civ that couldn't fight a war vs you... At very least if you were at war with them, they'd be paying you alot of gold for peace. The bigger the gap between you and them the better.

Standard golden rule of threatening! don't ask Mike Tyson if he wants to "take this outside?"

Thats a good tip though, I'll have to investigate into the possible repocusions of that. It is a lot tougher to force something out of a civ in peace time than it I remember it being in civ II where they'd throw things at me when I got noticeably more powerful than them. And I am partial to a bit of 'requesting'!!!

I made a threat to the vikings to give me a size 2 city they had right on my border but a little away from their own closest city, and it worked. He gave the city up and went from polite to cautious.

I bet he remembered though! And he'll hit you when you least expect it!!! :p


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