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8/6/2004 2:37 PM
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Has anyone ever had a city in a foreign democracy flip to you while you were in Anarchy? This happened to me in my current game. Playing as the X-Man in a standard map 1.29 Regent game, I started with a continent to myself. That is a situation I usually give up on as soon as I figure it out, because you get a massive and almost unsurmountable tech hit. However, having gone for it once in a similar position and achieved a diplomatic win without engaging in a single war, I decided to go for a conquest win from an equivalent starting position. As it turned out, the nearest continent was close enough for a suicide galley to cross to, so I wasn't alone long. Amazingly, I was on par with the neighbors in tech, and well ahead in population and land area. At this point I had about 75% of the continent under territorial control. The portion not yet settled was at the opposite end of my continent and seemingly safe from the neighbors until Navigation. Three leisurely produced settlers would get me the entire island all to myself. Or so I thought. The Chinese were able to sneak a galley in and dump Macao on a one-tile peninsula right at the edge of the continent. Bah. An annoyance, but I made sure the city couldn't grow by strategically locating my final two cities close enough to snag all the available territory. Wait a while and get the Macaoans to flip. Well, they did, but it took forever - about 1500 years. But when it did, I was ahead of everybody in tech, culture, wealth and power, but preparing to go to war with the English by switching from Democracy to Monarchy and consequently in a state of Anarchy. The Chinese were number two in just about everything and in Democracy themselves, and I expected nothing for a while, but lo and behold, here comes Macao, begging for annexation. Too cool, and really rare, I would guess.

As for progress on the conquest win - I'm well on the way, first by a mile to Tanks and merrily rampaging along.
8/6/2004 2:56 PM


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I thought that Democracies were immune to flipping to Anarchies. Nice to know that this isn't true!
8/7/2004 12:19 AM


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Democracies are immune to Propoganda via Espionage but not through Cultural flipping.

I agree that is is strange to be flipping to you during Anarchy when you're accumulating zero culture for the period of revolution...
8/7/2004 12:23 AM


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I thought that you still accumulated culture while in Anarchy...you certainly continue to do so in civil disorder...
8/7/2004 9:47 AM


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I thought that you still accumulated culture while in Anarchy..


Nope, it grinds to a halt until you get back into a proper government. This may be C3C V1.22 only, as I can't remember witnessing it elsewhere.

That's why it's good to be a religious civ (1 turn revolution!)
8/7/2004 11:24 AM


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That's why it's good to be a religious civ (1 turn revolution!)

Well, if you're religious, then from a cultural perspective, those cheap temples/cathedrals would more than make up for the lost time in Anarchy.
8/9/2004 6:59 AM


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cheap temples/cathedrals would more than make up for the lost time in Anarchy.


But that's why it's so easy to get ahead on culture with a religious civ. Cheap temples/cathedrals, plus 1 turn anarchy means you can easily keep ahead of the others!
8/9/2004 9:53 AM


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And that's also what makes the Babylonians a cultural powerhouse, cheap templescathedrals, cheap linrariesuniversities AND a 1 turn Anarchy...
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