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9/2/2004 5:10 PM
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Are you guys serious?

I VERY rarely get a city to flip.

I build all the cultural stuff as soon as it is available, but I still seem to lag substatially behind my oponents in culture.

Does the AI get signifigant cultural bonuses on the Diety setting?


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9/2/2004 8:16 PM


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I've never played Deity but whenever I play Egypt and some bunghole places a city next to mine, its not long before I have it instead I get flips quite often.


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9/2/2004 9:27 PM


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Build your cities RIGHT next to their cultural boundaries and build culture things in those cities...it's a long process but it does work. AI gets production bonuses which would lead to faster culture generation in deity, but they very rarely build culture stuff in border towns quickly.


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9/3/2004 8:53 AM


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I have noticed that cultural flips come to me faster when the civ I'm encroaching on is at war with someone and I don't trade my luxires with them.


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9/3/2004 11:26 AM


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It works better on bigger maps... It's not hard to lead in culture, with the right couple civs...


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9/3/2004 2:59 PM


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Yeah it is slow but it works. I had a couples of cities on my borders fleep to me. Babylonians are great for this (religious and scientific).


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9/3/2004 4:18 PM


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Does the AI get signifigant cultural bonuses on the Diety setting?


Nope, but they need 6 shields for every 10 the player does. So a religious civ can build a temple with a whole 18 shields.... Tends to make it hard to keep up to em


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9/7/2004 3:13 PM
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Does the civilizations overall culture ranking contribute?

I think it must because:
Recently Me(Egyptians) and the Babylonians each slapped a city on the same little island. I bought a temple in turn 1 and a library in turn 2. My borders expand. Then expand again. in fact, my border from that 1 city was beginning to swallow the Babylonian city. Now in the overall standings I was WAY behind the Babylonians in total culture. There was no flip. about 30 turns went by without the Babylonians so much as building a temple in their island city. No Flip. :mad:


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9/7/2004 5:24 PM


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Yes, your civilization's overall culture compared to theirs does matter. But it doesn't matter anyway, you probably wouldn't get the city.

I remember one particularly maddening episode that demonstrated this: I had established my civ on an island and through whatever means had managed to take control of virtually all of that island. Now, I say virtually, because there was a skinny arm extending down from and then, in an abrupt right turn, quite a few tiles west of the southern shore of the main continent. Now, I had almost completely covered that arm, which was about two squares thick and hilly, except for about two or three tiles that my borders had not enveloped yet. You can guess what happened next, I'm sure. The French, in their AI frenzy to suck up every square possible, of course landed a Settler on the very tip of the arm and established a crappy little city. Being surrounded by Hill, Coast, and Sea tiles and not having its own Worker detail, the city grew very slowly and produced almost nothing. My surrounding cities, however, were growing under my gifted leadership and soon culturally surrounded the French city. The French themselves were inferior culturally to my great empire, and the city had not even a Temple to boast. And yet, after the passing of more than a millenium, they never once flipped. Not ever! After discovering Espionage, I even tried to "safely" initiate propoganda in the city. Civ 3 spies are inept idiots, I know, but even this failure was unexpected. It was maddness, sheer maddness!

I can't remember if I ended up simply invading the city, but I probably should have. Cultural conversions only seem to be good at making whole armies vanish into nothingness.


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12/1/2004 11:28 AM


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i dont get flips often but they can be very annoying when you declare war for the sheer porpese of capturing the enemys wander filled capital and than it flips can make you go mad :mad:

but if you want to kick but with this strategy you can try and pot it on the mode at which to you capture one city you kill the civ but it often kills your best friend ...


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