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2/6/2008 2:18 PM


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Look, the German word for German is Deutsch, which not only _sounds_ like Dutch, it even etymologically is the same. The word for Dutch in Dutch is Nederlands and in German it is Hollaendisch, which neither is nowhere near "Dutch" - in short, the English make a mess out of it. The Pennsylvanian Dutch were actually 'Deutsch', German that is.

The two languages are closely related, but far from mutually understandable, as opposed to Scandinavian or Slavic languages.

The Dutch history has a lot in common with the English, and hardly anything with the Germans. As far as religion is concerned, where Dutch are mostly Calvinists and Catholics, Germans are Lutherans and Catholics. Dutch culture has been influenced by German culture, but no less by French and English. German culture has much more influence from the east. The Dutch have a state which has begun independence since 1568, but is an entity before that.
The Germans have nothing but language (if there is one German), until the 1860's when the Prussians (you'd call them Poles these days) began to impose unity on the German states.
Capisce?
2/6/2008 3:08 PM


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RabiAkiva (2/6/2008)
Look, the German word for German is Deutsch, which not only _sounds_ like Dutch, it even etymologically is the same. The word for Dutch in Dutch is Nederlands and in German it is Hollaendisch, which neither is nowhere near "Dutch" - in short, the English make a mess out of it. The Pennsylvanian Dutch were actually 'Deutsch', German that is.

The two languages are closely related, but far from mutually understandable, as opposed to Scandinavian or Slavic languages.

The Dutch history has a lot in common with the English, and hardly anything with the Germans. As far as religion is concerned, where Dutch are mostly Calvinists and Catholics, Germans are Lutherans and Catholics. Dutch culture has been influenced by German culture, but no less by French and English. German culture has much more influence from the east. The Dutch have a state which has begun independence since 1568, but is an entity before that.
The Germans have nothing but language (if there is one German), until the 1860's when the Prussians (you'd call them Poles these days) began to impose unity on the German states.
Capisce?


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2/6/2008 8:10 PM


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RabiAkiva (2/6/2008)
Look, the German word for German is Deutsch, which not only _sounds_ like Dutch, it even etymologically is the same. The word for Dutch in Dutch is Nederlands and in German it is Hollaendisch, which neither is nowhere near "Dutch" - in short, the English make a mess out of it. The Pennsylvanian Dutch were actually 'Deutsch', German that is.

The two languages are closely related, but far from mutually understandable, as opposed to Scandinavian or Slavic languages.

The Dutch history has a lot in common with the English, and hardly anything with the Germans. As far as religion is concerned, where Dutch are mostly Calvinists and Catholics, Germans are Lutherans and Catholics. Dutch culture has been influenced by German culture, but no less by French and English. German culture has much more influence from the east. The Dutch have a state which has begun independence since 1568, but is an entity before that.
The Germans have nothing but language (if there is one German), until the 1860's when the Prussians (you'd call them Poles these days) began to impose unity on the German states.
Capisce?

Sounds pretty convincing to me! Didja get that Black Owls? Dutch not in anyway equivalent to German.

The other funny thing I've encountered in a book I read about Napoleon was about how, prior to him, there were all these different dialects spoken all over the various French provinces. Seems the revolution imposed a standardized version and this developed into what we now know as "French." Seems a similar sort of thing happened in Italy in the late 1800s?

Why are you Europeans so fricking complicated and edgy?

2/7/2008 6:45 AM


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Why are you Europeans so fricking complicated and edgy?

Religion?
2/7/2008 8:57 AM


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Why are you Europeans so fricking complicated and edgy?

Because we're cool...

2/7/2008 2:37 PM


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Sorry CD, English is different... right?
2/7/2008 11:32 PM


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As I said, visit Lancaster, and Lebanon Counties.  Then preach,(sorry RK), lecture me on the fine lines.
2/8/2008 2:31 AM


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Sorry CD, English is different... right?


Yeah, we're the cool ones...
2/8/2008 5:34 PM


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My brain has its limitations, Roadkill, just like everyone else!!!


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