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Zone

3/11/2007 2:52 PM

Wibble!

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Geez, maybe the whole thing should be renamed and moved over then... Come off it, I'm not suggesting anything of the sort, it just makes sense to have polls that ARE ideal rather than not using them and using the 'least imperfect' soloution where the ideal option isn't available. Unless Sean would like to code such a thing...
-- When in doubt, Zone is right. [Jerm]. We all speak CIV and it works [Spitfire 303]. I don't play to win, I play not to lose!

Locus Coeruleus

3/11/2007 2:55 PM

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I agree with Zone. In the grander scheme of things does it really matter much to anyone or anything if we hold the polls off site? Really? Especially if that site happens to be a 1bc Refugee site that exists today for among other reasons 1bc would not allow us to have D-games for a time in its history....
-- Reaching out now and I touch your face, Please believe I'm only traveling. Like seeking wonder from a foreign place, It matters not from where I'm coming. -Ween, "Back to Basom".

Bismarck2990

3/11/2007 3:02 PM

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Yeah, I just got done reading your reply in the SC. You raised a interesting point... but I'm still not sold on Option #1 over #3. I'll go ahead and edit my above reply in that respect.
-- -Of course we must all fear evil men, but there is another evil that we must fear more… and that is the indifference of good men.

Zone

3/11/2007 4:45 PM

Wibble!

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I agree with your edited ocmment Bis, that's why I put "I know holding the elections on another site is not ideal," in the original suggestion.
-- When in doubt, Zone is right. [Jerm]. We all speak CIV and it works [Spitfire 303]. I don't play to win, I play not to lose!

Zigeuner

3/11/2007 5:36 PM

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It is a presumption that there will be a lot of PMing going around. It's been my experience that there isn't in D-game polls, any limited discussion about the results tend to be limited to the political parties. Sounds like a good one for the VS thread: presumption vs testimonial I'll just go with the flow, instead of trying to be the flow... One suggestion though, if there's going to be weird rules (hey, you can look at the election outcome so far, but you really can't) I want such to be clearly stressed on the poll page itself. Same as a huge warning in red capitals above every .sav that is put up. Not everybody has aspirations to read everything all the time, and it would be a pity if only hardcore citizens understood what is expected of them...[/superfluous]
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maniacalmonkey

3/12/2007 4:26 AM

Go ahead, punk!

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Fair point Zig. If people can get their hands on the current poll result, then so be it - as has been said here, think of it as an exit poll. I personally see no great harm in it.
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Locus Coeruleus

3/12/2007 12:29 PM

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If people can get their hands on the current poll result, then so be it - as has been said here, think of it as an exit poll. I personally see no great harm in it. With all due respect sir, I have to disagree. I do not think the exit polls is a valid comparison either. Anywhere I've ever voted, exit poll information isn't making news until the end of the day, after the polls have been closed, before the votes have been tallied. Listen, you use the example of it not being quite right that if greater than 50 percent comprise a certain group that they can control the Senate outright. Well if you want to make that argument, you must also consider the fact that if people can check the results of the election before the polls have closed, there is a greater risk of, shall we call it "voter fraud" that certain groups can withhold their votes monitor the progress of the election and then swing it whatever way they desire with a rush of last minute voting based on the results. An extreme example to be sure, but I can envision a sort of "voting mafia" controlling the outcome of the elections as they please. I don't like it, and I would like to request an investigation by the admin or moderators to determine if the polls can be moderated so that you can not view the results until after you vote. It is the fairest way to do it, if it is allowed.
-- Reaching out now and I touch your face, Please believe I'm only traveling. Like seeking wonder from a foreign place, It matters not from where I'm coming. -Ween, "Back to Basom".

maniacalmonkey

3/12/2007 12:57 PM

Go ahead, punk!

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I hadn't considered that, to be honest - and it is a good point to make. If this can be solved technically, it certainly should. In the interim, we might create a law to make such actions illegal. There's a problem with off-site polls; unless we link databases somehow (which is a major pain in the neck), there's no way to prevent non-citizens from voting. Our current Voting Booth is accessible by signed-up citizens only, and I would not want to let that security go.
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Locus Coeruleus

3/12/2007 1:13 PM

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I hadn't considered that, to be honest - and it is a good point to make. If this can be solved technically, it certainly should. In the interim, we might create a law to make such actions illegal. If it can be solved techincally, that is great, if not, so be it. We can make it illegal, but it would be a difficult thing to enforce. There's the whole honour system thing, which works for some but not for others! There's a problem with off-site polls; unless we link databases somehow (which is a major pain in the neck), there's no way to prevent non-citizens from voting. Our current Voting Booth is accessible by signed-up citizens only, and I would not want to let that security go. Right! I agree. If we can do it here, by all means. Lets do it here.
-- Reaching out now and I touch your face, Please believe I'm only traveling. Like seeking wonder from a foreign place, It matters not from where I'm coming. -Ween, "Back to Basom".

Zone

3/12/2007 2:29 PM

Wibble!