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Mr. G

7/21/2007 4:34 AM

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Just give it to somebody and stop giving me grief. It's a good idea.
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Comedy Dave

7/21/2007 4:49 AM

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Sorry, not trying to give you grief. I think the Princep should have the deciding vote otherwise the distinction between the Executive branch and Senate gets muddled. I'll raise an article of law vote soon if no one objects.
-- C3C Emperor C4BTS Prince "You can't stop the world from spinning around. You'll never stop the rain from falling down." - St Paul, The Rembrandts "You may be a king or a little street sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with the Reaper." - Grim Reaper, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey <<--- click me!

Locus Coeruleus

7/21/2007 8:29 AM

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I think y'all need to construct a monument in my honour!
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psweetman1590

7/21/2007 3:53 PM

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Beg your pardon gents, seems my deputy got out of his cage again... shoos LC back to his corner I'm not sure expanding the Senate to four would be all that good of an idea. We had some competition and a vote last election, so it's probable that we could fill an extra seat. But then there wouldn't be any elections, and the people should not be forced to accept any one in office simply because the seat is uncontested. There ought to be elections (more of them, imo), and creating another seat will eliminate that. Of course, if we eventually grow to a larger population base, increasing the size of the Senate is the sensible thing. Now, it seems to be prone to more ill fortune than good.
-- Emulator of Otto von Bismarck, Master of realpolitik, May he rest in peace. But the liberals should be careful of screaming too loud ... of conspiring too well ... of undermining us too thoroughly. Because if they succeed, if they do get what they insist they want, then the result may well be something they never conceived ... "They have made a desolation, and they call it peace." ~Tacitus~ ... but a peace controlled by our former enemies. --Tosk

Comedy Dave

7/21/2007 9:58 PM

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LC, I thought you already had the Temple of Coeruleus? Psweet is correct, there probably is no need to expand the Senate size at this time, however it would be prudent to determine who decides future tiebreakers. Also need to consider who decides a tiebreaker in a Princep Election... I think the Princep should have the casting vote in Senate Elections, and maybe the President gets the decider in a tied Princep election...
-- C3C Emperor C4BTS Prince "You can't stop the world from spinning around. You'll never stop the rain from falling down." - St Paul, The Rembrandts "You may be a king or a little street sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with the Reaper." - Grim Reaper, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey <<--- click me!

Bismarck2990

7/22/2007 3:13 AM

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I'm in agreement in thinking the Princep should be the person who receives the tie-breaking vote. It would seem to be logical as it's balanced by the fact the Senate is the one who actually votes him in (and the position itself). As far as who gets the tie-breaking vote during Princep Elections, I imagine the most convenient choice would indeed be the President as you've suggested CD. In regards to Senate expansions, I'm in the same mindset as psweet on the subject. There's been some competition in the recent election and I'd wager it'd be best to keep things as they are to encourage said competition. There would also be no certainty that we'll always have as many willing to run for the Senate in the future. I could also imagine that if it was expanded, as result, people could be forced to continue running for the Senate each term just to keep it filled.
-- -Of course we must all fear evil men, but there is another evil that we must fear more… and that is the indifference of good men. Edited: 7/22/2007 3:13 AM by Bismarck2990

Comedy Dave

7/22/2007 7:16 AM

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Anyone want to write up a draft?
-- C3C Emperor C4BTS Prince "You can't stop the world from spinning around. You'll never stop the rain from falling down." - St Paul, The Rembrandts "You may be a king or a little street sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with the Reaper." - Grim Reaper, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey <<--- click me!

Bismarck2990

7/22/2007 3:46 PM

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I'm willing to dish out some drafts dealing with the subject at hand. However, aside from 1BC and classes this past week, I should be considered dead here until I get at least one game of civ under my belt tonight. If somebody wants to beat me to the punch in drafting some of these, now would be the time to do so.
-- -Of course we must all fear evil men, but there is another evil that we must fear more… and that is the indifference of good men. Edited: 7/22/2007 3:47 PM by Bismarck2990

Bismarck2990

7/26/2007 2:16 AM

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I've managed to pull myself away from cIV and got one of the drafts out of the way. It's up for discussion and view to hammer out the kinks if there are any. In regards to the Vice President, however, I've drawn blanks as far as what I could propose to give the position more appeal. The "Tie-Breaking Votes Draft" is also in my signature for quick access.
-- -Of course we must all fear evil men, but there is another evil that we must fear more… and that is the indifference of good men. Edited: 7/26/2007 2:17 AM by Bismarck2990

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