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Which view is closest to yours regarding the...
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An eye for an eye. If you commit murder, you should be executed. Period.
 
25%
6
I support it in some cases of 1st degree murder when there's extra violent/malicious extenuating circumstances.
 
33.33%
8
I don't support it. Killing someone because they killed someone makes no sense.
 
20.83%
5
 
20.83%
5
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10/27/2007 2:15 AM


Udderly ridiculous

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Blank bubble is for 'other'

I may be fishing for a debate here (Trolling? Gasp!), but I'm curious with the current mix of liberal and conservative leaning folks that tend to frequent here, what the most common answer would be. Hey... its politics and religion. Why not?
10/27/2007 12:50 PM


Elite Pathogen

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I clicked the second one.  Not every murder is necessarilly equal but I believe executing the guilty is appropriate at times and even shows our humanity. 
10/27/2007 1:03 PM


die with honor

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personally, I see nothing wrong with a death penalty ... even god used it.

I do, however, have a problem with the current methods of judiciary standards by which it is meted out. Get a liberal judge and you might get off even if you deserve it ... get a conservative judge and you might hang for some nondescript offence because of the letter of some archaic law.

As to degree? WTF? murder is murder! who is capable of looking into some ones mind and deciding if it was a "hate crime" or not? Furthermore, what does that have to do with anything, murder is still murder ... convict them and fry them and do away with the media circus/public entertainment factor. If the public demands its entertainment, rent a coliseum and let em fight it out, gladiator style, winners live another day ... the gate receipts alone will probably offset the cost of the trial and interment ... Pay per view, world wide, will rake in mega bucks.

Lets all just face the fact that people who murder other people are just not wired right and we can't "fix" them ... so why reward them with a free pass on the public dime for life?

Now if we could do "medical research" with them ...

Terminal Island (1973) is my thought for a best case scenario in our current state of civilization.

Well NC, that should stir the pot nicely!

adet:
Oops forgot this
"An eye for an eye and the whole world is blind"
~Mahatma Gandhi~

10/27/2007 2:28 PM


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I voted the blank one.

After hearing all sorts of arguments for or against it.... I just don't care anymore, really. It seems like neither choice is the right one, so I personally am not going to take a choice.

Aye, I know that's against the democratic ideal, but I honestly don't know.

I tend to think that execution is morally okay. I don't have any problem at all with the idea of someone dying because they killed someone else. Whether or not that's the pragmatic thing to do or not... that's what's got me hung up on whether the death penalty is a good thing.
10/27/2007 2:36 PM


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What is worse: locking some one up in a cage in social worlds that turn people into sociopathic deviants, or meting out justice by quickly and painlessly putting them to death?

If there were other options like: behavioral programming, and/or if 7 billion of us was not a few too many, then the arguments in favor of capital punishment would seem less valid.

I also agree with Tosk: a high standard of proof and standardization should be required for death penalty. After all, if you screw it up the first time, no corrections are possible.

10/27/2007 5:24 PM


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personally, I see nothing wrong with a death penalty ... even god used it.


-Along with slavery and torture. Finally, I can kidnap africans and put them to work in my plantations, whipping anyone who doesn't meet their quota. Wohoo!

-The death penalty is as inane as the idea of putting people into glorified pig pens in order to make them "better people." Some people have to be killed, some people have to be imprisoned, but these are exceptions, not the rule.
10/28/2007 2:24 AM


Udderly ridiculous

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I heard once that China executes its murders and dope dealers, etc and bills the guy's family for the bullet. Its chump change, but has a subtle message that they were somewhat responsible for the guy turning out that way.

As so many other things, I'm sure there's exceptions to every rule, but overall I like that idea.

I remember reading an article on Saudi justice where they referenced 2 neighbors that were arguing and neighbor 1 threw a rock at neighbor 2 and it hit neighbor 2 in his front 2 teeth and knocked them both out. Neighbor 1 got 6 months jail for battery and at the conclusion, they yanked his 2 front teeth in public to make things equal.

Again... I kinda like it. Its even more punishment that neighbor 1 had to think about that impending 'justice' for 6 months before it happened. In the US, if I did that to my neighbor, I probably would get probation or some crap like that and my neighbor would suffer for life when my wrist really didn't even get slapped. Again, I like it.

EDIT: Oh, and ALL murders are hate crimes aren't they? It doesn't matter what race, religion, etc the killer is if he/she kills your son, wife, etc. If it is race/religion/etc motivated, why is that more morally detestable than murdering someone for whatever other reasons they had? Murder is murder.
10/28/2007 10:08 AM


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EDIT: Oh, and ALL murders are hate crimes aren't they? It doesn't matter what race, religion, etc the killer is if he/she kills your son, wife, etc. If it is race/religion/etc motivated, why is that more morally detestable than murdering someone for whatever other reasons they had? Murder is murder.
No it isn't. And no they are not. There are so many variables. This world is not black and white, no matter how many people try to paint it that way.