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An eye for an eye. If you commit murder, you should be executed. Period.
 
25%
6
I support it in some cases of 1st degree murder when there's extra violent/malicious extenuating circumstances.
 
33.33%
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I don't support it. Killing someone because they killed someone makes no sense.
 
20.83%
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20.83%
5
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4/30/2008 10:09 AM


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In a way, this case has no relevance for the death penalty discussion, it is first of all an example of a bad functioning justice system. In a bad functioning justice system, the outcomes are horrendous, whether the system has lenient penalties or harsh ones.
The only thing may be, is that one can contemplate in this case that at least the unjustly convicted could be freed, whereas, had he been put to death, it was irreparable. However, as NC points out: much is irreparable anyway. 27 years imprisonment is life ruining no matter how you look at it.

Why is this such a bad case?
Woodard was convicted primarily on the basis of testimony from two eyewitnesses. Officials say one has since recanted and the accuracy of the other has been questioned.


On the basis of the article, this seems to imply there is a suspect who is denying the charges and the only evidence are two testimonies from eyewitnesses.

This is a flimsy criminal case under any law. Without a confession there is little basis, you will need a lot of additional evidence. Best is: technical evidence, such as the DNA test that eventually exonerates him.
Another way to put it: it doesn't take too much of a defense lawyer to make mashed potatoes of the accusation. So how could the guy get convicted? Apart from having a bad lawyer, he may have had a jury.

So, in my mind, a case like this is more a point for questioning jury trials and for pressing a better supply of free lawyers (the accused can't possibly have been a rich guy with access to a prestigious law firm).
5/1/2008 4:35 AM


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In a way, this case has no relevance for the death penalty discussion,
Its actually pretty relevant to some of the early discussion in this thread though. Many pages back.

Especially in regards to, isn't a life sentence a death sentence anyways, just drawn out painfully long? This most recent article isn't quite a life-without-parole case, but I still would probably rather face death than 27 years in prison.

*Edited because its 02:39 in the morning and I'm not quite making sense. lol*
5/1/2008 4:50 AM


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My grandfather used to say: "If you have to be hanged, make sure it is on the last gallows."
I am therefore inclined to say that the drawn out affair is better than the immediate axe.

Besides, you must make a difference between punishment and locking up for security purposes. A psychotically deranged person can and should be locked up for the sake of safety - that is not punishment, it is a (safety) measure.
If we talk about punishment purely, I'd say that indeed life sentence is hardly worse or better than death. But then again, not only am I against a death penalty, I am also against a severe sentence such as life. A punishment (mark! I am not talking about safety measure) should be limited in time. The punishment should be over some day and the crime considered to be purged. I'd love to limit punishments to an absolute maximum of ten years. But that is just lenient me.
7/3/2008 12:39 PM


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The death penalty is bad arse.

I rest my case.

7/3/2008 5:26 PM


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Scipio Africanus (7/3/2008)
The death penalty is bad arse.

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I rest my case.
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7/3/2008 9:05 PM
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I thought it was funny.
7/3/2008 9:35 PM


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Scipio Africanus (7/3/2008)
The death penalty is bad arse.

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I rest my case.
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7/3/2008 10:32 PM
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If it were possible to bring the slain back to life, I would not support a death penalty. There has to be some sort of accountability to every action and everyone should be aware of that. An example may not deter everyone equally due to variability of circumstances, but it goes a long way in preventing many would be cases.
7/4/2008 1:35 AM