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An eye for an eye. If you commit murder, you should be executed. Period.
 
25%
6
I support it in some cases of 1st degree murder when there's extra violent/malicious extenuating circumstances.
 
33.33%
8
I don't support it. Killing someone because they killed someone makes no sense.
 
20.83%
5
 
20.83%
5
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10/29/2007 3:10 PM


Udderly ridiculous

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What I'm saying is that yes, prison is somewhat wasteful but it's about the most humane thing you can do.

If I had the choice of spending the rest of my life behind bars to rot away without freedom, I would find death much more humane, even if I had been wrongly convicted. In my opinion, quality of life would make death the more humane choice, at least if it was me who was on the receiving end.

I assumed that CONVICTED as guilty was part of the poll, btw.

Cleo, in Colorado, and I'd imagine Texas, if that dude came into your house and you blew him away, you probably wouldn't be charged with anything. Killing does not necessarily equate to murder does it? In Colorado, our famed nicknamed "Make My Day Law" pretty much covers anyone who broke into your house for any reason whatsoever. It probably COULD have scary implications if used wrongly, but I haven't heard of anything odd like that. If you get into a car accident that is your fault, and it kills the the other driver, does that equate to murder? I would think most people wouldn't define those as "murder."

Maybe for sense of debate, we should clarify and say 'someone who is convicted of murder' or perhaps even break it down to 'convicted of 1st degree murder?' I would say I'm a bit more conservative and think that in most 2nd degree cases, the result should be the same.
10/29/2007 8:15 PM


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*** the death penalty!
10/29/2007 11:42 PM


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ok, let me elaborate.

I know this doesn't address the question, but I am speaking on completely practical terms...

In my book, one innocent being executed is too many.

And you may say that the people who did not commit the murder who were executed weren't exactly the most upstanding of character, they may be shady, and I will say that you may be right, but that does not mean they deserved to be executed for their deeds.

One is too many, and enough for me to put an end to the whole system.

That is where I draw the line.
10/30/2007 12:18 AM


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What I'm saying is that yes, prison is somewhat wasteful but it's about the most humane thing you can do.

If I had the choice of spending the rest of my life behind bars to rot away without freedom, I would find death much more humane, even if I had been wrongly convicted. In my opinion, quality of life would make death the more humane choice, at least if it was me who was on the receiving end.

I assumed that CONVICTED as guilty was part of the poll, btw.

Cleo, in Colorado, and I'd imagine Texas, if that dude came into your house and you blew him away, you probably wouldn't be charged with anything. Killing does not necessarily equate to murder does it? In Colorado, our famed nicknamed "Make My Day Law" pretty much covers anyone who broke into your house for any reason whatsoever. It probably COULD have scary implications if used wrongly, but I haven't heard of anything odd like that. If you get into a car accident that is your fault, and it kills the the other driver, does that equate to murder? I would think most people wouldn't define those as "murder."

Maybe for sense of debate, we should clarify and say 'someone who is convicted of murder' or perhaps even break it down to 'convicted of 1st degree murder?' I would say I'm a bit more conservative and think that in most 2nd degree cases, the result should be the same.
In most cases, you would be carted away to jail. Doesn't matter what you say. You are always guilty until proved otherwise.
10/30/2007 12:16 PM


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One is too many, and enough for me to put an end to the whole system.

They're all innocent LC, don't you know ?  I respect that position but "one is too many" is a standard nothing can be applied to.  I'm sure there are innocent people in prison, serving a life term yet we don't stop imprisoning people because of the few innocents.  Now, death is a much more permanent punishment which is why I do respect the position of "one is too many."  That is why we should (and do) give them every opportunity to appeal and show that they are innocent.  Despite the few (and it is much fewer now due to DNA technology) who do slip through the cracks, I still think that the punishment of death and the prospect of having your life taken away if you take the life of an other's is worth the cost, as long as the number of innocents being executed is minute. 

Couple of situations for you to consider as well Locus.  How many people die in car accidents each year?  How many children drown in swimming pools each year?   I'm sure there are other examples as well yet I'm sure you would not advocate that we stop the practice of driving or swimming because we have a few casualties from them each year.  That would be... well, impractical.  That is how I view getting rid of the death penalty because a few innocents may slip through. 

In most cases, you would be carted away to jail. Doesn't matter what you say. You are always guilty until proved otherwise.

Being carted away to jail does not mean guilty.  I'm sure in many cases, they just want to hold you for questioning and to make sure you were in fact just acting in self defense.  If they don't charge you with anything, you're done.  Even if they do charge you, in the eyes of the law, you are not guilty of anything until convicted. 

10/30/2007 4:44 PM


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10/31/2007 7:22 AM


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*takes a deep breath*

Ok, this will be interesting.

Because i'm deeply agaisnt death penalty no matter what is the case or context.

i red all those posts and i was quite open-mouthed by some argument or example brought on the table by some of you.

However, i'm glad i found this poll cause i never had the occasion to discuss with pro-death penalty american citizens.
I red all those posts with deep interest and most of the pro-capital punishment arguments layed here were new to me.

As soon as i have enough time (at work right now ), i will expose my opinion about it so i can take part to this topic.

(as well as my english level will allow me to do it.)

greetings.
10/31/2007 9:53 AM


die with honor

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One is too many, and enough for me to put an end to the whole system.

That is where I draw the line.


Is one to many to be killed by a drunk driver?

Is one to many to be run down by a soccer mom yakking on her cell phone?

The "one is to many" argument is media BS ...

Welcome aboard Copy and Paste we need more people willing to argue pro and con ... don't worry about your English level, it's probably better than mine.