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An eye for an eye. If you commit murder, you should be executed. Period.
 
25%
6
I support it in some cases of 1st degree murder when there's extra violent/malicious extenuating circumstances.
 
33.33%
8
I don't support it. Killing someone because they killed someone makes no sense.
 
20.83%
5
 
20.83%
5
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10/31/2007 10:30 AM


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And that is exactly why I stated in my very first response that I had a problem with the judicial standards.

I would far better wish to see the issue be well regulated than banned ... ban it and sooner or later people will get fed up and mob lynching will begin ... and why not the deterrents will have been banned ... how many innocents do you think that will kill?
10/31/2007 10:35 AM


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Is there a plethora of mob lynchings (or even any at all) in all of these countries that have already banned the death penalty in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, etc.?
10/31/2007 11:14 AM


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Riggghht ... tell me again how a unarmed population who consider themselves "subjects" equate to a free population of armed citizens ...

Never mind I was laughing so hard when I wrote that I almost didn't post it.
10/31/2007 11:25 AM


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Well... maybe they are on to something then!!!
10/31/2007 11:32 AM


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Perhaps they have forgotten to read their history on how well and long socialism has worked in every past society.

Sorry LC, I know you are serious I was just pulling your chain a bit.

Crud cut my post in half again ...

I'm only in favor when there is uncontestable proof of a truly heinous crime, I would never ask the death penalty on circumstantial or flimsy evidence.
10/31/2007 12:00 PM


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-Judging by your post history in this thread lately Tosk, I believe you are unfit to discuss history, let alone European history, with any figment of authority.
10/31/2007 1:01 PM


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Welcome Copy and Paste, though I'm not sure we need another Norwegian (just kidding Rk ).  It gets pretty heated in here but it remains mostly civil.  I love discussing subjects with people whom I disagree and I look forward to hearing your arguments.

No Tosk, and jerm, the difference between a drunk driver and a soccer mom on the cell phone, or just even swimming and driving period, is that the death penalty is state sanctioned execution. You all are always talking about the excessiveness of the government. Well, should the government also have a chance at executing innocent people? There is a difference there. It is not media BS when you are talking about taking someones life who did not commit the crime.

But my point was how often does that happen and does that frequency mean we shouldn't do something.  There is a point at which I too would be against the death penalty.  If 20% of the executed were innocent, I'd agree that we shouldn't execute, because the margin for error is so great.  If 10% or even 5% of people put to death were innocent, I'd have serious reservations but I do not think that is the case.  That said, it's hard to know how many innocent have been executed. 

Executed But Possibly Innocent

You can take from the above what you will.  Here's another interesting statistic:

Innocence and the Death Penalty

This may not exactly be helpful to my argument, though I'd submit that it only shows that the appeal system works to a large degree. 

10/31/2007 1:32 PM


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Oh yeah, I forgot to address this line:

You all are always talking about the excessiveness of the government. Well, should the government also have a chance at executing innocent people?

I am always talking about the excessiveness of the government when it comes to controlling our lives and getting into areas that they have no business being.  Along with National Defense, Law and Order, and yes, that includes punishment, are at the top things the government should be doing.  Should they do it better?  Yes, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't do it.  Supporting less government does not mean I'm in favor of no government or anarchy. 

10/31/2007 5:44 PM