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Scipio Africanus

4/30/2008 8:03 PM

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May we all become as wise, humble, loving and tolerant as you, Scip. You teach sociology to our youth too? How encouraging! Did you perceive that what I said was a reference to you Nuke? If so, I'm curious to hear why? Is it because you are the sort of pacifist who would have been calling for the appeasement of the Euro- and Asian-fascists in 1939?
-- "'The front' is wherever you stop running away. Get used to it. This is what modern warfare looks like." K T Cat

Nuclearcow

5/1/2008 4:16 AM

Udderly ridiculous

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Its hard to tell who you're upset at, Scip. It sounded similar to some of your previous postings to myself and LC (though usually not as harsh as the above), so I did think you were including myself again. From Cleo's "huh?" response, I'd bet I wasn't the only one that thought that. If that was incorrect, I am sorry for my assumption. I remember a few months ago posting somewhere that I thought your postings of late were much more light-hearted than normal and made a joke asking who the new lady in your life was. Now in your postings of late, it seems like you're usually angry and I might say antagonistic, but I'm sure you'd disagree. I have my own faults to play in this, but it seems like once in a while, this P&R forum gets a couple people who start making more insults than debate, and slowly but surely the participation in threads diminish.
-- "For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's futures, and we are all mortal. " -- John F. Kennedy "Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." --Patrick Overton "It doesn't matter where you are as much as where you are headed." --Mike Shanahan Edited: 5/1/2008 4:47 AM by Nuclearcow

Scipio Africanus

5/1/2008 8:27 AM

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I'm always here to debate important topics like whether or not Islamofascism or the U.S. are evil. If folks don't want to be serious about debating these topics, well: if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I believe you might be mistaking conviction, and seriousness for 'anger.' I have a conviction to refute any efforts to argue that the U.S. is 'evil' and that Islamofascism is relatively justified. Out of this conviction I have formulated a resolution that I will engage in any thread on this forum that involves that sort of rhetoric. If you compare my posting history with that of other folks, I believe you will note: it has been a long time since I _started_ a polarizing discussion of this sort.
-- "'The front' is wherever you stop running away. Get used to it. This is what modern warfare looks like." K T Cat

Nuclearcow

5/1/2008 11:31 AM

Udderly ridiculous

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I'd agree. But how many postings have you made into 'America is evil' or about 'Islamofascism' when the original debators had no such thing in mind? How many have you flung insults in with a "you call it how you see it" attitude? For what its worth, I read your postings in other debates and know you are an intelligent guy and I tend to agree with most of your postings, or at least a large part of each. 'Nuff said.
-- "For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's futures, and we are all mortal. " -- John F. Kennedy "Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." --Patrick Overton "It doesn't matter where you are as much as where you are headed." --Mike Shanahan

cleopatra143

5/1/2008 11:38 AM

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It's all well and good to get your point across or defend your point, but lets all please remember that we are friends here. Even though I don't agree with some things Konrad posts, I don't hate him (same goes for other people here I disagree with). If he truly thinks we are imperialists then that is fine. I may think it is rude to insult someone's country like that but It doesn't keep me from sleeping at night. I know things get out of hand sometimes too so lets please just let it go and debate something worth debating without personal attacks and nasty comments. SA, for what its worth, I respect your opinions greatly so when I see you acting "like other people are acting" it bothers me. I know you are better than that.
-- "Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are willing to give it to others." -William Allen White

Black Owl

5/1/2008 3:43 PM

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Anybody else here have a POSITIVE example of American heart after 9/11? I can come up with atleast a couple hundred and more. Can anyone else? I'm espsecially inviting any input from the over seas section of our community. (Other than, but not excluding Americans) Because I do know that a lot of the world grieved with us, and at that point also resolved to fight terrorism of any nature, or by any source. ADDIT: I'd also like to see the HEART shown by other countries who fell under attacks. SPAIN, FRANCE, GREAT BRITAIN, JAPAN, ISRAEL, (where it has become a way of life, sadly) etc. Point being that as awful as the nature of terrorism is, it cannot stomp out the heart. And let it be known here, my fight is not so much with "Islamic Terrorism", as it is with terrorism in general. I believe it is the single greatest threat on this planet. And I will argue the sanity of it's employment anywhere by anybody. Half of me is Irish. All of me is ashamed of the brutish force employed by the IRA against the Brits. I'm even more shamed to learn that many Muslim terrorists were trained by IRA members, past or present. Just so my own base is clear to all.
-- "The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."---JFK Edited: 5/1/2008 4:00 PM by Black Owl

RabiAkiva

5/1/2008 4:07 PM

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Looking for something like this?

It says: anniversary of the disaster, we cry with America.

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Hypocrisy is sin's reverence to virtue
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Edited: 5/1/2008 4:07 PM by RabiAkiva

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Black Owl

5/1/2008 4:16 PM

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Exactly like that and more from the world community. And really. Not sympathy for America. But examples of how the Human heart grows stronger in the face of terrorism. The American heart, the Japanese heart, the British heart, the French heart, the Spanish heart, and the Israeli Heart. Examples of how their hearts rose up in the face of their attackers. Things that lifted them also. In general those things which show terrorists cannot cower the Human Heart and it's capacity for compassion no matter where they strike or how they strike. I'm looking for examples of each and every nation and people afflicted by terrorism, and their own responses, to attacks on them, and how they lifted each other. Please bare with me on this. It is an idea that has only taken root recently. Maybe a more positive approach to terrorisms evils? I leave this open for text and pics. Thanks Rabi.
-- "The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."---JFK Edited: 5/1/2008 4:39 PM by Black Owl

Scipio Africanus

5/1/2008 4:35 PM

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