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| | Prairie Switch Grass is a more dependable and resilient crop. Offering twice the potential BTU per acre than corn. But that would displace growing room for corn, at not much savings either to the Environment or at the pump. Since creating ethanol in the first place requires the burning of fossil fuels, and Methane. I saw yesterday that Corn Futures are sky rocketing because of heavy soaking rains, (heavy equipment can't work the fields), and the demand is up from Ethanol. We'll end up paying more for everything besides fuel if corn is used as a base crop for ethanol. Very good for farmer's, bad for consumers. Fuel cells still seem to be the best alternative to oil. Hydrogen will sooner or later be the fuel of choice as it addresses all the issues surrounding fuel. Clean, plentiful, relatively cheap, doesn't pressure or displace feed crops, doesn't make anybody rich.............okay, so it'll never be allowed as a primary fuel source. |
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| | There was also a study done which showed that the clearing of land to create crops released more C02 than it saved. It would take something like 30 years for it to start having the desired effect. On the food front, apparently the price of fuel is driving up food prices more than the biofuel issue but the point is that biofuel 1) isn't efficient to make and 2) it's not helping the environment, which was the whole point behind promoting it. The thing is, the farm lobby isn't going to let it go. Republicans and democrats alike have voters in "farming" states who they are beholden to and that is a bigger issue than any environmental issue. BTW Owl, are there many small farmers anymore? Is farm aid just helping big corporations? Hydrogen, unfortunately, uses more energy to produce than it actually produces. When the return is better than the cost, we will see it take over. Until then, it's not something we can count on. Currently, I think the hybrid technology will start (and is starting) to finally take off. I was just in L.A., one of the biggest commuting cities in the country, and the amount of Priuses I saw was noteworthy. Very few SUV's anymore. Getting 50 mpg is significant compared to some of the best compact cars at 35 mpg. I think that fuel efficiency will be the major cost cutting, technological trend to be honest. I saw a show which discussed future car technology and they had a car that could go 0-60 very quickly (sorry can't remember) and which also got some insane amount of fuel efficiency like 150 mpg. Sure it's a prototype but eventually we'll be seeing cars which get great mileage. How soon is the question... Drilling in Alaska is something I am for. Actually it should be clear that there is drilling in Alaska (it's 80% of their economy), it's ANWR drilling we're talking about. Don't expect it to solve all of our oil consumption needs. Estimates say it will last for anywhere between 12-30 years once tapped and I think it would add something like 5% to U.S. consumption, but don't think it will all just be sold to the U.S. It'll go on the world market just like all the oil in the world does. Keep in mind that we only get something like 10% from the middle east. Our (the U.S.'s) biggest supplier of oil is actually Canada (20%). I'm in favor of ANWR drilling for several reasons but solving our dependence on foreign oil is not one of them. The single most efficient, clean, safe use of energy today is nuclear energy. The amount of fuel it takes to power a city can fit in your hand, there is zero polution and storing techniques are extremely safe. It's a sad fact that we aren't allowed to build more nuclear power plants in this country. It would take care of our energy needs while new technology is being researched. It could end our dependence on foriegn oil, significantly drop carbon emmissions and "save our planet." For some reason it's a big no no. |
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