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5/10/2008 1:57 PM


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Since I'm sure others than me have very specific questions concerning what the other team was up to, here's a thread for it. I'll start.

Q: What was your primary purpose with the Apostolic Palace? I see from the threads in your forum that you used it to mobilize your neighbours against us. But, did it occur to you that you could have used it for a diplomatic victory? We were definitely aware of the possibility, which is why we switched to theocracy to prevent Judaism from spreading to Omega accidentally.
5/10/2008 10:34 PM


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Yeah, I see no hint of that possibility in your discussions.  Was it just a given that we wouldn't let Judaism into any of our cities or did it not occur to you? 
5/10/2008 10:49 PM
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I could be very wrong about this..., and apologize ahead if I am.  But sometimes it seemed as if things were done as if everyone involved understood without discussion.  Even the post game threads.

Since I'm learning the finer points of civIV by playing along, (and learning fast),  I found myself lost quite a bit because of the lack of more indepth discussion.  I haven't played BTS yet, and there seems to be a lot of new things I'm not familiar with.  Such as the Palace.

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5/11/2008 3:24 AM


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Well, it didn't occur to me, but then my time was severely lacking once my terms ended, so I did not have much of a chance to review the state of the game

I don't think we realsied that you had consumed all of your neighbours (mainly due to our lack of a navy) and so probably the other guys expected that a lot of effort would be needed to spread our religion over to your continent?

5/12/2008 12:42 AM


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True but there was a chance it could have spread if we didn't switch to Theocracy, via trade routes with your neighbors.  Hey, we didn't put a missionary in Omega THIS!  I suppose the only thing we could have done once judaism did spread would have been to put it in every one of our cities which would a) take away from production of "other things" and b) give you tons more money.  Getting judaism to Omega would be a win win for you.  That was your one chance at winning so we actually thought that was why you built it !
5/13/2008 10:16 AM


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That was one potential possibility with the AP but you guys have just pointed out the very reason which prevented that from becoming a real possibility!! Good defence on your part!

It was evident from your score as I mentioned at the time, that you guys were in the process of, and subsequently completed the conquest of your continent.

Edit: Jerm hit the nail on the head.

Was it just a given that we wouldn't let Judaism into any of our cities
6/6/2008 10:42 AM


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I have a question for the alpha team. Did you guys notice we changed your civics using a spy?
6/6/2008 11:06 AM
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I didn't know much it would seem.
6/7/2008 7:06 AM


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Nope, didn't hear anything about that... probably all the tag-team-ing didn't help...
6/7/2008 9:56 PM


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Unfortunately, there is not actually any way to provoke a diplomatic victory election is there? The resolutions that get voted on by the AP members are more or less randomly determined by the game no? I suppose the code is probably written so that, if the AP leader gets better and better relations with the voting members, and the avg relationship b/w the voting members and some other viable candidate for victory get progressively worse, then the probability that the diplo elections comes up increases?

ADDIT: ah yeah, here is the answer to my question over at CFC.

You need to have every leader in the game have at least 1 city with the AP religion to get the Diplomatic Victory option.

There needs to be a war against a heathen (no city with a state religion) to get a vote to dogpile.

There needs to be a war before there can be an AP vote for peace.

There needs to be a city that was captured to get teh "retrun city to ..." option.

There needs to be closed borders between AIs of the AP faith to get the "Open borders with all members".

Also teh AP vote seams to pop up at random times, not regularly like the UN.

So start a war with a brother of the faith or a heathen, you'll get vote options then.
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