#1.  No where in my statement did I call you, or refer to you as a NAZI.  It was in reference to a seriously flawed and anger provoking statement YOU MADE.  (Lets not forget the storm trooper alter ego you carry tho.)

#2.  Was an attempt made to silence that brand of hatred and insensitivity to others here by trying to remind you that you are not the only one reading it?  You bet your *** it was!  I think there should be some unwritten rule somewhere to give the benefit of the doubt to those who did suffer, and those who continue to suffer from the Nazi regime.  Nobody has slandered or mocked Palestinian claims here.  Only their validity to the peace process has been questioned.  Rabi is correct.  Your zeal on the subject blinds you.  Therefore making further discussion useless and pretty petty.  I leave you to your misery.  It's a bueatiful day here today.  Maybe it won't be tomorrow.  But today it is.  I plan to have fun with it. 

This paragraph is for the other posters here.The Middle East I feel is really not worth the effort the US and US tax payers put behind it.  I'm all for pulling away and letting them choke the **** out of each other.  Israel, and Jordon seem to be the only ones there that want to enjoy bueatiful days.  The rest grovel in self pity and beat themselves with the flogs of misery.  Relishing in it.

This conversation is over for me.  I like your tenacity on subjects Konrad.  But this is a dead end one.  And frankly, it's laced with far too much outrage to be properly dealt with.  I can see why Peace there is so elusive.  That much is illustrated in our little neck of the woods.

Only miserable pplz argue. Happy ppl conversate. They shake their heads @ unfortunate, & nod it @ the good. If there is anything they can do about the either they just get up & do it. Miserable ppl will argue, & then they will argue about the argument & only grow more miserable bcz they get nothing done besides arguing. And their arguments will have nothing accomplished bcz all sides were closed wut is reality. The reality is that nothing "should" be, everything "is".

First of all, you responded to the paragraph in which I was objecting to Genocide as a tactic, not violence.  Either you are trying to change the subject or you misunderstood what I was saying.  I still have not heard a clear answer as to whether you think Genocide is a justifiable act... ever. 

To address your response, colonial rule and the Israeli/Palestinian situation are quite different for a variety of reasons.  Firstly, violent means against the English (for example) did not (necessarilly; not sure if there are any cases of this) include "Genocide," which is the term you used that got everyone ticked.  Also, when the British colonized, they were doing it for imperical reasons.  The lands were really far away and would take long periods of time to get there and back.  British survival didn't in any way depend on the conflicts and so they pulled back because it was not worth the effort in keeping those lands.  The Israelis could walk to the colonies behind the green zone.  I'm not saying they should but they could.  Many in Israel feel that their survival does depend on keeping the Palestinian lands occupied.  Lastly, the reason India was able to get rid of the British peacefully is because the British were generally a decent society, and at the time, democratic.  I believe Israel is such a society as well.  I'm not saying that I agree with settlements being there, only that this situation is different. 

This is because the Palestinian leadership... namely Hamas and other organizations, don't want reconsiliation.  They don't want "their piece of the pie", they want it all.  They want Israel to cease to exist and replace it with an Arab run, Islamic form of government, or at least a government where they and their buddies are in power.  This is the heart of the problem.  Until the people reject these guys, they aren't going to get anything. 

You are probably right that it would eliminate the settlements but it wouldn't help the peace process.  It would most likely just unite the Israeli people more against the Palestinians.  So, once again, do you think it would be justifiable to kill all the people there, even those who didn't resist?

Please re-read #2  That was not what was said.  Kvr's rebuttal was a twist to silence the critism of his tone and insensitivity to others.  Regardless of his deep feelings, he does not have the right, (or maybe he does here?), to post an agenda of Genocide.  No matter how much of a "dream" it maybe.  If it had been said by somebody else about the Palestinians, we would, I'm sure, seen very strong offense, no?

[#2.  Was an attempt made to silence that brand of hatred and insensitivity to others here by trying to remind you that you are not the only one reading it?  You bet your *** it was!  I think there should be some unwritten rule somewhere to give the benefit of the doubt to those who did suffer, and those who continue to suffer from the Nazi regime. ]Black Owl

What exactly, is wrong with being more sensitive to others?  Tell me.

Konrad, I sense that you are getting a bit combative with me (could just be a European thing )

Ahh..., then maybe he's wrong?(OMG! Did I say that outloud?)  We should not post strong opposing opinions to a strong opinion?