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| Part of what amazes me about modern life is the notion that wealth can make you happy. If anything, the whole issue of money seems to make the majority of people unhappy, and I think that a lot of "homeless" people have taken that realization to a very deep (and I acknowledge probably pathological) level, and are acting out (in what I agree is a rather childish, self-destructive, if not incompetent) way "against" the permeation of society with those shallow consumerist values.
It ain't about happiness, doc, it's about financial security. I'd rather have that financial security, than not have it. The events and people in my life will make me happy, the money will not. But it will give me an extra comfort level that having the money will not. You say the whole issue of money makes most people unhappy, do you mean most people that do not have money, or most people that do have money. Is that a trick question, because when people have money, and they know what to do with it, they have FAR LESS issues with money than people who either do not have money or people who do have money but don't know what to do with it. Come on now. Furthermore, if I have more money, I am in a better position to serve the needy than if I have less money, as jerm points out. |
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| | There is some fairly sound empirical evidence (sparse, but sound) that: (a) as a populations standard of living (read median income) goes up, its "happiness" does not go up. This appears to be widely generalizable across populations. If you combine non-quantitative evidence from meta-analyses of literature and historical narrative the magnitude of the proof for this effect multiplies significantly. (b) people who have more money do not exhibit more "happiness" per se. They simply worry about other things. Similar issue with the use of humanities evidence. I would not argue with the point that "not enough money" is a definite source of disturbance, and psychsomatic trauma. The problem is that, what is defined/considered to be "enough" is not a fixed point. You make $30K you want $50K. Once you get to $50K you want $75K. Once you get to $75K you want $100K and so on. As an evolutionary psychologist, I'm convinced this is a good example of a misfit between our evolved nature and our modern context. There was nothing the least bit like "currency" throughout most of human, let alone primate natural history. A granary, let alone a bank account, may well present a human mind with a kind of goodie-bin that it was not really "designed" by natural selection to cope with effectively. Ever since the Renaissance, burghers, kings, peasants, and everyone else have operated from the assumption that being "better off" would naturally tend to be better for people. It is axiomatic that being so destitute that you are malnourished, do not have adequate shelter or health care or protection commensurate with the standards of your society is harmful to a person. But what about simply being impoverished? What about being simply "not well off," or "just below middling," or "only middle of the road," and so on up the gradient? Is there a linear effect? Does x units more affluence generally tend to manifest as XY units of greater well-being? The jury is still out in large part. |
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