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| Commentary: Immigrants melting into the pot as usual
And even while Americans complain about how the current crop of immigrants aren't like their predecessors, they miss the irony: At the time, there were people who said the same thing about their ancestors; the Germans were thought to not be like the English, the Irish weren't like the Germans, the Italians weren't like the Irish etc. And the Chinese weren't like anyone who had come before them, and so they were labeled "unassimilable" by the Tom Tancredos of that era.
Yet, there is more melting going on than one might think, according to a new report from the Manhattan Institute. Billed as the first annual Index of Immigrant Assimilation, the study was written by Duke University Professor Jacob Vigdor. It measured three kinds of assimilation: economic (employment, education, homeownership, etc.); cultural (intermarriage, English proficiency, family size, etc.); and civic (citizenship, military service, political participation, etc.). Far from discovering that recent immigrants are ducking the assimilation process, the study found that "immigrants of the past quarter-century have assimilated more rapidly than their counterparts of a century ago, even though they are more distinct from the native population upon arrival."
Word to your mother. The public education system takes no prisoners when it comes to fomenting the seeds of assimilation!!! |
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| Ooh. I was off on vacation when you wrote this posting, LC. I disagree with you and Jerm both, though I'm not 100% sure I understand where you guys were going on this one.
In my opinion, there is a bigger agenda in the tolerance, acceptance, turning of a blind-eye to illegal immigration, etc, but I'll attempt to ignore that in my response. Tom Tancredos, of my beloved state of Colorado is one of the few politicians to stand up vocally to ILLEGAL immigration. Not against immigration itself. Big difference there, that many of the groups that support ILLEGAL immigration like to lump the 2 categories together, or make claims of racism if someone is out to stop illegal immigrants. "Oh you're just racist." Huh?
News channels have gone from calling them "illegal immigrants" to "undocumented workers" to "migrant workers." Even worse, recently on a radio talk show (thats a sign I'm getting old, I think, hehe) they were talking about some recent news channels referring to them as "foreign nationals." WTF? Foreign nationals? Doesn't that make you think of them as some sort of diplomat?
In my opinion, this is nothing but PSYOPS to call them that in the media. If you watched CNN and they showed some illegal immigrant talking to a CNN reporter and underneath him, put "LAW BREAKER!" it would have the opposite effect on sheeple.
Please don't say we should allow the illegals in because they are just trying to feed their families or something related. I empathize with that and if I was born into extreme poverty and if my family was starving, I might try to sneak across the border too. There are a lot of nations out there that are doing well financially, socially, etc. Norway rules! (there... beat RK to the punch). There are billions of people out there in extreme poverty in comparison to the US, so maybe we should let all of them in too? What would that do to our economy? To... everything? That is not isolationist or racist or whatever along those lines, to consider. How about we consider the ones who are just like that, but are trying to do it in accordance with our laws? The ones that must wait because so many are coming in illegally? That is not the American way to reward those who do it the unethical and illegal way (except in Washington DC! )
Illegal immigrants have been POURING across our border this past decade in particular. What has happened to our economy this last decade? Surely you can't say this is totally unrelated?
Before I say anymore, are you both in favor of this? What about amnesty to the up to 20 million illegals in this country? LC, "unity" and all that, but lets not ruin our country in doing so. |
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| | I tend to agree with you NC that, doing anything "illegally" should not be dismissed as inconsequential and trivial. Even if some laws are stupid, archaic, or in need of reform, the way to make the world a better place is not just to flagrantly breach the law, nor to promote/condone it, but to work to _change_ the law. I guess what the "pro-immigrant" camps would argue is that immigration laws, and indeed, national identities dividing Mexico and U.S., are stupid, archaic, and in need of reform. Moreover, I think a lot of these folks would see the slowness of change in such laws as being obstructed by powerful corporate/political interests (both Mexican and American) who profit disproportionately from the illegal Mexican labor complex. Lots of money made off of illegal immigrant labor, and lots of money spent on it, which would not be either made or spent if it were all legalized. Same argument that is made about legalizing pot, etc. I suppose. I think increasing 'globalization' is an inevitable trend for the foreseeable future, so I can in principle agree that the slow pace at which we prepare for eventual evaporation of American national-boundaries is unfortunate. But at the same time, I cannot escape the conviction I expressed in the opening sentence: Even if some laws are stupid, archaic, or in need of reform, the way to make the world a better place is not just to flagrantly breach the law, nor to promote/condone it, but to work to _change_ the law. |
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