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| Was it the reference to Tom Tancredo that undercut the article on immigration and assimilation with a subtle current on illegal immigration? That was part of it. Pardon my insolence, but I don't think you got the jist of what the opinion piece writer was talking about. 
Tom Tancredo was relatively unknown until he made a lot of noise about halting illegal immigration, amnesty, and all that other related stuff and one of the only politicians to make bold statements ignoring the politically correct environment regarding it. He has been VERY vocal about it and was probably in about 5th place in presidential balloting for the Republican party before dropping out this fall. He had a couple other ideas that were pretty extreme, IMO, but groups calling him racist against Mexicans kinda helped fuel some publicity to his anti-Illegal rants and that got most of his publicity. Some of his war on terror suggestions would make people on 1BC P&R forum blush.
Since the article mentioned Tom Tancredo, I am sure it was referring to that. Also, the article starts with "San Diego" as the reporting place and the author of the opinion piece is Hispanic, that makes it more likely as well. For him not using the dirty "I" word ("Illegal") before "immigrants" thats kind of my point above. News sites rarely use the dirty "I" word anymore. In my mind, that article is 100% referring to illegal immigration but never mentions that word.
What I am against is the attitude of some conservatives that immigration from south of the border is bad. I don't think I've ever heard a conservative, or anyone, make that argument unless they were referring to illegal immigration.
I'm not racist, have nothing against Hispanics, my brother in law and good friend is of (legal) Mexican heritage as well a couple of other friends. The most frustrating thing to me about this debate in the U.S., IMO, is that if you believe in die-hard immigration reform, no-amnesty, etc, you usually have to say "I'm not racist" a few times almost as a disclaimer as it will usually be accused of you. |
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| | Kind'a like saying you can't say Holocaust because your silencing someone, huh? I stepped into this quagmire about a year ago with Scipio. While I wasn't called a racist here, outright. It was inferred. I was sharing my exp. with our brothers from South of the Border. In that, the same subject of assimilation arose. In my opinion from watching the goings on first hand,(lots of "Illegals" in Horse Racing and Agriculture in general here) I see no such assimilation by the young that sneak into the country. Older Mexicans, yes. Yes, they use the "System", yes they buy fancy cars and boats, they play video games and watch Jerry Springer. But they have much contempt for Americans and want no part of being one. They are here because it's better than where they came from. Does that mean they want to be Americans? In most cases NOT. I asked the only english speaking member of a group working with me, why don't they learn english? It could only help to empower them. The response was stunning and one I will not soon forget. With much pride he answered, "Because this going to be Me-he-co!". And with twenty million strong and growing. He's right. I was asked in the thread I speak of, "What was wrong with this?". Isn't it the way of America? No, it is not. People used to come here to be Americans and jump on the wagon. Too be a part of it. That is not the case of the young generation coming into the US now. As Scipio states they can change the laws by joining the game. But they want their own game. And a lot of them are the criminals and outcasts of Mexican society. I doubt we would see a Mexican criminal apply for "legal" residence. I work part-time as a mechanic at a local Army Corps Of Engineers reservoir. (My third job by the way, not using the "system") It isn't just our Mexican brothers either. Hordes of Puerto Ricans (Americans) descend on the recreational reservoir every weekend. To the point no other cultural groups go there. Because even tho they are Americans, they are Puerto Rican first. That is NOT how this country was built. Again, it was built by cultural groups that saw the good in becoming American, and living as Americans firstly. Keeping their heritage, but it was secondary to the pride in being American. IMO, what has changed is America's tarnished promises. She is something to use now. A prostitute(even less than that). No longer a lady. Any group is free to come here and exploit her now because of Political and Cultural Correctness. You don't have to respect her (laws), you don't even have to like her. Just get your jollies and trash her. Do I blame these folks. Hell no. I blame corrupt politicians and "bleeding hearts", whom I see as wolves in sheeps clothing. Exploiting Illegal Immigrants for their own ends. When that stops, and the US regains it's place of respect in the world, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION will slow. But that is not likely too happen any time soon. Too many folks raping the original "Lady". |
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