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Nuclearcow

6/20/2008 10:53 AM

Udderly ridiculous

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I didn't think we were quoting each other. Is that just quoting other sites? blows a smoke ring into the middle of the room
-- -"You don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step." -"If a man hasn't discovered something he will die for, he isn't fit to live." -“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.” -“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness, in a descending spiral of destruction. The chain reaction of evil must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation." (all 4 above by Dr. Martin L. King Jr.)

Black Owl

6/20/2008 11:05 AM

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pours another brandy Quoting each other here is fine to have a point carried forward. Quoting outside sources, no. leans against the American Black Walnut hearth Nice stuff.
-- "The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."---JFK Edited: 6/20/2008 11:09 AM by Black Owl

jerm

6/20/2008 12:49 PM

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Aw, now that just ruins the fun. When I think about it, I almost never read the quotes people give because I've read them before. It would be a good experiment to just desist from quoting at all. Makes one have to think.
-- -A government that is powerful enough to do anything for us is powerful enough to do anything to us. -Fred Thompson -There are two races of people, the decent and the indecent. - Victor Frankel -They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security. - Benjamin Franklin Consequences

jerm

6/20/2008 12:53 PM

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:breathes deeply the second hand smoke in the room: I think the reason Globalization has "caught on" so quickly is due to our sudden ability to more efficiently communicate with the world. I don't think there is some "conspiracy" to make it go faster. I don't know that it's increasing all that much more than usual of late. The internet just makes it possible to buy something from anywhere.
-- -A government that is powerful enough to do anything for us is powerful enough to do anything to us. -Fred Thompson -There are two races of people, the decent and the indecent. - Victor Frankel -They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security. - Benjamin Franklin Consequences Edited: 6/20/2008 12:53 PM by jerm

ddmagnan

6/20/2008 1:05 PM

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I'll take the oldest, smoothest scotch you have. Sorry I don't smoke, but I like the smell of cigars. I think in the end globalization will be a good thing, but it is going to be a long, difficult journey. In the short term cheap labor will be exploited, countries with loose regulations polluted, and millions of jobs displaced from industrialized countries. In the end hopefully standards of living will equalize, but I think it will be several generations before that happens. I also disagree about companies staying small because they will compete against each other. That doesn't work in the US and I doubt it will work on a global scale. I think as time goes by companies will swallow eachother up and we will end up with several mega-international corps that control everything. There are already companies buying other companies in other countries. There are mega-corps richer and more powerful than most countries. I expect the trend to continue. This is one thing I do not like about globalization. I prefer doing business with small companies. I don't trust a corp so big it makes everything from socks to cars. Too much power and influence concentrated in one place.
-- "In our November issue we mistakenly labeled World in Conflict as ESRB rated M instead of T. Because apparently, it's ok to detonate a nuclear device in a major American city, as long as you don't see the blood of the countless innocent people you've killed until you turn 17." PC Gamer #169 Need help with your civ addiction (or just a good laugh). Go to civanon for help. "You won't stop playing until you WANT to stop playing." Edited: 6/20/2008 1:09 PM by ddmagnan

Locus Coeruleus

6/20/2008 1:52 PM

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For being a perceived tribal, traditional society, I will posit that the Arabs sure do have this globalization thing down, rather quite well. Maybe you can attribute that to their vast wealth coming in from the oil rents, but think about it. With their monies they are able to export Wahhabism to every corner of the globe, through the funding of mosques and maddrassas, staffed by the strongest adherents to the Wahhabi sect. That, my friends, is globalization at its finest, like it or not. Now as far as these ginormous, transnational, conglomerates, I think in the future, one potential result is we will see a shift away from governments running the show towards businesses running the world. Hell, in America here, already, the cynic will argue that that has already happened, or at least is well in progress. What will the global citizenry do about it, I ask? Just put up with it, as they have with government for aeons?
-- "“Remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS.” - Mahatma Gandhi The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...' -Isaac Asimov There is only one time when it is essential to awaken. That Time Is Now! - Buddha "You have to get busy living or get busy dying" - Tim Robbins (in Shawshank Redemption) "There are many things worth living for, there are a few things worth dying for, but there is nothing worth killing for."- Tom Robbins (not to be confused with Tim Robbins) “operare non meno l’ongiegno che la forza” (Exercise intellect, as much as force) - Cosimo de Medici

Black Owl

6/20/2008 3:30 PM

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waves hand to clear smoke to see the others It would be cool if we could converse without quoting at all. Even each other. But I didn't want to increase the Culture Shock to an unacceptable level. Possibly killing this thread before it even had a snowballs's chance of being a successful experiment. If we can lets try not quoting at all. But I won't *** if it's done. (Excepting outside source quoting, none of that fer sure!) Yeah, it's the big business I do worry about. More and more they seem to be above National Laws, and even International Law. International business is way ahead of International controls it seems. Am I wrong in that?
-- "The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."---JFK Edited: 6/20/2008 3:32 PM by Black Owl

Nuclearcow

6/21/2008 3:42 AM

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waves the thick cloud of smoke away from my face I think Jerm is right. We chat outside the library in 1BC with several citizens of several nations and rarely think about them as "foreigners". Well, at least I don't. I used to play another game where I would chat with several friends and none of them were American. We'd talk about weather and their families, sometimes customs, music, etc. Their English was almost as good as mine and most of the time I wouldn't think about them as foreigners. So, thats part of it. As far as some big global conspiracy to globalize the world. Shyeah right.... getting a bunch of weirdos talking about politics in a dark, smokey room? Like THAT would happen. Pfff... shyeah. Wait a moment.... eyes Jerm nervously
-- -"You don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step." -"If a man hasn't discovered something he will die for, he isn't fit to live." -“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.” -“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness, in a descending spiral of destruction. The chain reaction of evil must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation." (all 4 above by Dr. Martin L. King Jr.)

jerm

6/21/2008 4:04 PM

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:...only to notice there's only a void of smoke in the exact silhouette of jerm where he was sitting:
-- -A government that is powerful enough to do anything for us is powerful enough to do anything to us. -Fred Thompson -There are two races of people, the decent and the indecent. - Victor Frankel -They wh