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7/14/2008 8:54 AM
lame duck

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You mean you've never been to such a place in Smallville, USA. Forget those big city chicks, smalltown girls are off the hook. Ye and the ones from the 51st state are pretty wild too
7/14/2008 2:26 PM


Radical Centrist

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Well the bailout of Freddie & Fannie is here

But....I thought Freddie and Fannie ARE the government. So now we have the government bailing itself out?

7/14/2008 2:36 PM


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They aren't exactly owned by the government but they were created by the government.
7/14/2008 2:39 PM


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But are they quasi-government, kind of like the USPS? Or are....were they completely independent (before this supposed bailout?
7/14/2008 2:50 PM


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I believe they are independent.  I think Freddy Mac was created when they gave Fannie Mae some privitization so that there wouldn't be a monopoly.  They have shareholders and all that but I think they are beholden to the government in certain ways and they may recieve subsidies from the government as well but I think on paper at least, it's not like the Postal Service.  Not sure how it works exactly to be honest. 
7/14/2008 3:45 PM
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They are chartered by governement, but privately owned. Theirs is one of those grey domains, where you dont really know if we live in a Matrix style world or is Capitalism for real.
7/14/2008 5:10 PM


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Thanks for the info, guys.

In related news, I heard Dave Ramsey say today that 90 percent of these forclosures are in Michigan, Florida, California, Phoenix (AZ) and Las Vegas (NV). That doesn't make the situation any better than it is (esp. for those involved), but is interesting if true.....

7/14/2008 11:23 PM


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So if Freddie or Fannie go out of business, who honestly feels the pain? Tom, Dick and Harry, or just Ronald Fat Cat? Or all the above?
7/15/2008 3:27 AM
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Well, the financial industry rhetoric is that it would be all of the above. But then again tobacco industry used to say that smoking was good for you.
7/22/2008 12:22 PM


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